Nice pop on URA.

    Posted by EdZ on 12th of Jan 2024 at 09:36 am

    Nice pop on URA.

    So frustrating! I sold my

    Posted by frtaylor on 12th of Jan 2024 at 09:42 am

    So frustrating! I sold my position based on the STS stop being hit.

    That's part of trading ...

    Posted by mla127 on 12th of Jan 2024 at 10:01 am

    That's part of trading ...  I get it, I'm venting here too at time s... ... but  for me trading is more managing risk now than hypothetical profits  ...  you manage risk properly , profits will come in steady ...  I used to swing for the fence all the time with oversized position and getting striked out many times ... I had wild swings in my equity curve, large draw down, etc....  now it's the opposite ...i look to constantly hit singles and doubles ... but i'm always in the game ...   I want a steady increasing equity curve, without any wild swings ... and  I sleep much better at night   

    URA - Few comments on

    Posted by elementsix on 12th of Jan 2024 at 10:29 am

    URA - Few comments on Dividend Stocks...

    1. Be careful on stocks with Dividends. Different charts handle the ex-div and date payable in different manners. In the case of URA, the STS tables show a   gap down in price on the ex-div date (12/28) but other charting will resolve that when the dividend pays out (stockcharts). When you are ex-div, simply add in the dividend amount to calculate the actual dollar value. You can see on stockcharts that URA had an Ex-div high of $28.55, and the low never fell below the previous low of $26.61. We basically never fell out of tht uptrend channel, just touched the bottom (where I bought more because i felt the Div confuse a lot of people, affecting price).

    2. I use a higher low stop method similar to what Matt and Steve suggest to protect profits. However, on larger swings or trades i am more confident in, I will set an alert for the recent higher low but   set my stop at the second higher low to allow for more wiggle room. That totally depends upon my trade plan though.

    Thank you, elementsix, that is

    Posted by chuckw on 12th of Jan 2024 at 10:47 am

    Thank you, elementsix, that is a good explanation of how to handle stocks with dividend payouts. In my case, I didn't even know it paid a dividend, I was just trading on technical indicators and Matt's opinion.  So, it was dumb luck for me, but now I know better! 

    The info Matt posted abouts URA dividends says that the dividends are paid semi-annually. However, there was no payout in June 2023. I'll be alert in June 2024! :-)

    yep, anyway that's awesome! a

    Posted by matt on 12th of Jan 2024 at 10:49 am

    yep, anyway that's awesome! a nice gift that you weren't expecting! congrats

    that's how I approach it

    Posted by matt on 12th of Jan 2024 at 10:11 am

    that's how I approach it too, managing risk.  

    most of the masses are more concerned with profits or potential profits and NOT risk.  Over the years I've seen more people get more frustrated and angry about missing a strong move up in a stock, than they do about taking a big loss on a position.  That's backwards

    Another way to think about your trades is who much you are willing to risk: So if in your trading account you are willing to risk $250 per trade, as long as you know where your initial stop is, you can calculate how many shares you can buy based on your risk if you are stopped out, if the stop is hit you lose $250, your risk is predefined.

    for example if there's a stock that you see a coil on and your entry would be $22 and you determined that your initial stop should be placed at the most recent higher low of $21, that's $1 risk, so that means you should buy 250 shares if that's the amount you are willing to risk on the trade.  And all of you should be setting initial stops, otherwise you can fall into a bad psychological trap if it goes against you where you get emotional and are no longer objective

    read this part from my book on stops:

    Whenever you buy a stock, always have an exit strategy and immediately place a stop. First off you need to know where your stop is in order to calculate your risk/reward ratio.

    Don’t fall trap to the ‘I’ll just give it a little more room trap’.

    This is an emotional rabbit hole that can happen whenever you buy a stock and then do not immediately or soon thereafter place a hard stop loss order. If the stock goes up nicely after you buy it, you generally don’t have a problem, however if the stock goes against you, and you don’t have a hard stop loss in place, that’s where you can fall into this trap. For example, let’s say you buy a stock at $10 and it falls to $9.5 where you might have had a psychological stop in mind but that wasn’t live.  Since you didn’t have it as a live stop order in place (or you did but decided to cancel it) it becomes easy to justify an excuse why you can give it a bit more room, the stock falls more, you give it just a bit more room once again, this continues and repeats and soon you are down 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% and at a huge loss. Especially for swing trading it’s best to place your stop order immediately after you enter a trade and then adhere to that order if it looks like it’s going to be filled, let yourself stop out. Remember, stocks are not spouses, you are not married to them, if stopped out you can simply buy them back again after the chart sets up again to a good risk/reward setup. Steve and I stop out of positions all the time, simply to buy them back again soon after.

    You might tell me that you’ve heard some traders say that they don’t use stop losses. Yes, I know quite a few exceptional day traders who don’t place stops.  However, first and foremost they are extremely disciplined, and secondly for their style of fast trading it might be less advantageous to use stop orders and instead manually exit the trade on their own.  For swing trading especially, the best practice is to immediately set your live stop order immediately after you enter the trade. Remember my rule, always know your exit price before you even buy the stock!

    URA - Agreed! Weekly breakout to

    Posted by elementsix on 12th of Jan 2024 at 09:42 am

    URA - Agreed!

    Weekly breakout to new highs.

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