Need a little help BTCUSD.

    Posted by Glad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:04 am

    Need a little help BTCUSD. &. $BTCUSD.X.  
    Both bitcoin symbols, but different prices. What am I missing here?

    On Tradestation 

    I'm not sure, is the

    Posted by matt on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:04 am

    I'm not sure, is the X one futures? whereas the BTCUSD is pure Bitcoin

    I don't know about tradestation,

    Posted by DigiNomad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:29 am

    I don't know about tradestation, but on TradingView there were like 20 feeds for BTCUSD price last time I searched "BTC". All the exchange providers you can think of plus some that I didn't recognize. Try opening COINBASE and RobinHood at the same time and check the BTC bid/ask on each at a single moment in time. It's probably been 6 months since I've done it, but back then there was more than a percent difference in the bid/ask between exchanges (RobinHood has zero commissions, but it's not inexpensive...quite the opposite). 

    Ok. Makes sense. Ty

    Posted by Glad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:06 am

    Ok. Makes sense. Ty

    you know the really stupid

    Posted by matt on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:10 am

    you know the really stupid thing about Bitcoin futures - they trade the same session as ES/NQ etc, which means they stop trading at 5 pm on Friday and don't open again until Sunday 6 pm EVEN THOUGH Bitcoin trades all weekend, and some of the bigger moves are on the weekend!

    not knowing that I had created some intra day bitcoin futures KISS systems that I was planning to automate (72 min, 45 min, 60 min, 36 min) - then once I saw that I was like how stupid is that? Even thought the stats look great on the Bitcoin futures system that I created, the fact that it doesn't trade on weekend would make me too nervous to trade those and be holding it over weekend when it can't enter or exit

    But how is that any

    Posted by 2schnauzers on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:34 am

    But how is that any different from the ES/NQ etc. which don't trade over the weekend? I for one would like to have access to the futures KISS for BTC and ETH

    Why not just make the

    Posted by DigiNomad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:22 am

    Why not just make the system for spot BTC  (I use the Coinbase BTC price feed on TradingView) and just make it clear that the trigger and STS prices are going to exactly match the BTC futures because of premium / volatility effects?  The signals would still be valid, IMO.  When you give /ES signals, I simply look at where the relative position of your STS on the /ES chart and put it in the same general area of the chart for SPX or SPY.  (This suggestion is complete nonsense if your futures systems algos are specific to futures / derivatives e.g. they  incorporate rules for volatility and/or volume levels required for entry, etc)

    I have that as well

    Posted by matt on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:25 am

    I have that as well on the Bitcoin index itself.  I won't be adding those to the KISS section - I think the majority of people will not be reacting to trade signals from Saturday night or Sunday moring as they can trigger any time over night and on weekends. 

    I turn off all  tradingview

    Posted by DigiNomad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:33 am

    I turn off all  tradingview alerts on the weekends....except my longer time frame BTC and ETH alerts.  I'm also prepping to move out of the USA in March, so any products that are available outside of regular US trading hours I'm getting setup for more consistent use. 

    Where to - Shangrila ?

    Posted by Glad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:36 am

    Where to - Shangrila ?

    I'll be hopping around at

    Posted by DigiNomad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:41 am

    I'll be hopping around at first to see what works. My sister and her husband teach at an academy in Bangkok...but that city is not my cup of tea for longer term. Bali and Vietnam are top choices going in. I lived in Singapore for 6 years but most of the countries in that region have made it more challenging to settle in for longer than a few months at a time.  Still very feasible in Bali (Indo) and Vietnam. Short flights to BKK. 

    Wow.  Good for you living

    Posted by Glad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:42 am

    Wow.  Good for you living the dream - no need for clean socks anymore 

    Lol. That's so true! I

    Posted by DigiNomad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:44 am

    Lol. That's so true! I had to get used to wearing socks again...and shoes (Hawaii for 12 years, then Singapore for 6). 

    I may eventually be oepn

    Posted by matt on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:35 am

    I may eventually be oepn to some sort of monthly lease on automated versions of the system in the future. 

    Count me in

    Posted by mundy on 19th of Dec 2023 at 09:23 pm

    Count me in

    I would be interested in

    Posted by skwan1940 on 19th of Dec 2023 at 11:09 am

    I would be interested in that also, thx

    Clearly, everyone does not show

    Posted by Glad on 19th of Dec 2023 at 10:15 am

    Clearly, everyone does not show with the respect it’s starting to gain, and as a result is left out of the regular guidelines

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