peace...nothing serious...just joking around...

"...what's the trigger price?  there really isn't one..."

So if the trade triggers aren't rigid - which I agree with - what is the "Break Point Trade"? (I don't mean this facetiously - I've been wondering all along what the breakpoint thingy is all about)

where do you get that?

looks like an important page to keep, may evolve in the future - can you guys connect it to the SPY system menus somewhere so we can access it in the future? this is not a normal post that I can make a favorite is it?

some computer playing games? blame it on Sarkozy? what's he saying?

To me, the worst aspect of this trade is the big divergence between it and the regular tone/bias of the site. It feels very strange - I really feel stupid - to be in a trade like this, while the regular posts and nightly comments point to the exact opposite. It's one thing to have different commentators give different opinions about the market - that's quite normal - but it's quite different to get literally opposing views on the same site! Your own indicators, charts and graphs - short and medium term -  all pointing down and yet we are deep into this. In my opinion this is what you guys need to really think about and discuss - how to resolve this dichotomy/incongruity/dissonance/divergence - how to incorporate your own indicators into the system. I say this in the spirit of friendly advice - I am here and staying here, love you guys etc. etc. - it's too bad we had this black swan event so early in the official life of this system - hopefully it will come back at least partially and the future will more than make up for it.

looks like we might need one - has this ever happened before in all the backtesting? meaning, all you stats freaks out there, what was the largest drop down from a 4th entry? Mattt says above 10.04% - not sure exactly what it means, total drawdown of all entries using thr 40/20/20/20 rule - I am asking about the largest drop from the 4th entry? new record tomorrow? how long did it take to turn around and become a profit - apparently, they all did, but there's always a first time...? does anyone like the idea of increasing leverage with 2,3,4 entries any more e.g. 1=SPY, 2=SSO,3=UPRO, 4=options anymore or perhaps it should be the other way around?

why not put the entry price(s) and %s on the "current trades"  just for documentation? the current trade should show the current status, right now it shows "alert".

 also: following posting here on this thread, the screen goes back to the main thread, i,e, does not stay on SPY.

good luck filing a complaint - talking to stockcharts is like talking to a wall - they never even acknowledge receiving any communication, never answer anything, don't answer their phones - just ask you to leave a message which they never return - they have become completely insular, uninterested in any customer service - must feel really fat sitting on a gold mine. I wish people here - with better access and knowledge than myself - will find a good substitute - it's time to get off stockcharts. If BPT decide to stop using them, this will give us all an incentive to move and maybe save some money too - I don't know if any free service is comparable. The certainly have a lot of good features, but also a lot of problems and issues that they refuse to address - in the past i managed to get some dialog going with them but this was a long time ago and they have since decided to stop communicating. Do they really provide the best value out there? I don't really use any of their serious charting services, just live quotes and basic charting, and I know there are many other sources out there e.g. is ameritrade as good? how did stockcharts get to where they are - they have become the default standard for everyone - it this justified today? perhaps we can start a discussion on a separate thread- this is not off-topic but also not mainline for this forum - can we ask for a new topic somewhere?

1. There should be ONE PLACEwhere recommendations are made - (is this what "current trade" was supposed to be?) so that when there is pressure - before the close etc. - you need to go to one place only and see the recommendation. The recommendation there needs to be simple and crystal clear - I don't see why is it not possible to write one or two sentences of short, concise instructions that anyone can understand, with no ambiguities, and in a point form - not conversational. (Why is it even necessary to say anything about the multiple-entry system in the single-entry area? Perhaps the should be only one place for both since what's the point of putting the same message in both places? (redundancy means imperfect design).

2.When a trade is announced, it is very obvious that people are going to start asking questions immediately. Matt & Co. need be on top of these questions and answer them immediately- on this forum or elsewhere - and ALL OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANSWERING QUESTIONS since if me or you start answering it just adds to the general confusion - we are now offering OPINIONSwhen what is required are ANSWERS. The format of these answers also needs to be crystal clear, and use a simple format such as the FAQ - without all the elements of the forum i.e. "reply" "comments" etc. - no need to click extra buttons to see more etc. - just Q, A, Q, A, etc. so that people can read these quickly and see what's going on - this will also cut on the number of Q's since as we see here people are asking about stuff that has already been answered earlier since they can not eassily see the previous exchanges. Perhaps this Q&A can be conducted in the same "one place" as the recommendation?

Matt & Co. are trying to do the right thing - it's not easy! I know they will be reading these suggestions here and hopefully will consider some of them. They are trying something which has never been tried before here, and it is obvious that there sre problems and they will be solved. In retrospect, I think it would have been wise to run a Beta test of all this - perhaps next time.

so everything said about after-hours is nonsense - we don't buy or sell after-hours, they don't count, right? all the testing, stats etc. relates to regular hours?

So my question still stands: how do we enter a trade if the trigger has to do with closing price? the FAQ says that all trades are entered at end-of-day?

FAQ says "all new trades are entered at the close of the day" so how do we do this if we are waiting for the SPY to close between this and that?

A good line in BusinessWeek about reducing the defense budget: "who are we afraid from? China? If they want to slay us, all they need to do is call in their loans..."

GLD back to even, SLV still climbing the slippery slope...

this is all very good but what about people posting off-topic items and not marking them as off-topic? see for example all the Bin-Laden crap here this morning...

you must have skipped class when they talked about that...

I have the same layout as yours but somehow - damnit - yours looks better! I don't know what it is - could be just the screen capture technology (what do you use?) - but your chart is much more crisp, better contrast, bolder - whatever - much better and cleare all around - do you mind showing me the full set of parameters you use for this chart?

Actually, now that I played with it a little more, there is something going on with the technology right here on the site - if I open your chart in another window, it looks exactly like mine - but if I open it directly, the local software does something to it and makes it much better-looking, so it may not be anything that you are doing. I will ask the techie here about it.

TIA

what was that all about?