I found  it to be

    Amazing newsletter last night, Steve

    Posted by bronxbomber on 30th of Oct 2009 at 09:22 am

    I found  it to be absolutely useless ! It basically says that the market can go up, down or sideways, depending on market conditions. Who doesn't know that! I hear the ' One day at time" mantra , over and over again, and here is an analysis trying to prognosticate the markets turns and twists  months out. Baloney !

    one thing I will say,

    Posted by matt on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:25 am

    one thing I will say, that even if we took away the market updates (didn't do them at all), this website is cheap.  Prices are the same as they were back in 2004 and I have added a lot to the website since then.  Plus the mechanical systems alone are worth the membership price.  Go look at 'thecollective', they have mech systems there, but they are black boxes (don't tell you the parameters), and the good ones will cost you $300 - $400 per month!  Find a website out there that freely gives out parameters to their systems?  Most do not, and the ones that do are insanely expensive.

    Plus, I have a lot of custom useful indicators here that are useful for market trends such as the NAAD, NYSI etc,  the gold stock systems like the GDX/GLD ratios etc.  We have a lot of stuff.  Now could it be organized better?  Yes of course, that's what I'm working on, getting all this stuff into organized sections instead of spread out through the newsletters. 

    I have a mechanical system for trading GDX which is very good, but I have not released yet.  But with these complaints, should I really release it?  I work my ass off and get beat up for it.  Maybe I should just shut BPT down and have  systems website, but charge a lot more for it, it's getting to be not worth my time.

     

    I came from one of

    Posted by stevedfw on 30th of Oct 2009 at 06:04 pm

    I came from one of those "other sites" that gave "strong opinions" every night.  By following them I came to BPT with my account down over 25%.  I have been a BPT member a couple months now. I have recovered all that I had lost with the other site plus I have made much more thanks to Matt, Steve and many others on this site.

    Matt, please, please release the GDX mechanical system, LOL.

    lol - you guys would

    Posted by matt on 30th of Oct 2009 at 06:09 pm

    lol - you guys would flip out, the GDX swing system went short on 10/22, 5 trading days ago at $47 wow, and it scaled out of a lot of the position today.

    I went short GDX this

    Posted by stevedfw on 30th of Oct 2009 at 06:27 pm

    I went short GDX this week at $44.69 based on your $BPGDM/EMA 20 Crossover.

    Also, went short XLE  this week at $57.48 based on your $BPENER/EMA 9 Crossover.  Waited all day to buy XLE after the signal the prior day after close.  Got a fantastic price since I followed your advise on watching the 60 period Stochastics on the 5 min charts.

    Great Stuff!

     

    Matt you guys do great

    Posted by brucewayne on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:59 am

    Matt you guys do great work in the depth of content you provide...I'd be a little bummed if you shut down the site

    Matt

    Posted by isplat on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:37 am

    may I make the following suggestion: regarding those very few people on BPT who want definitive answers as to what the market WILL do the NEXT DAY (!), and who want their hand held every step of the way... refund them the remainder of their subscription and ask them to be on their way. For their own good, they really shouldn't be trading the market.

    The rest of us TRULY appreciate all the hard work and invaluable information that you and Steve put into BPT. Thanks, and keep it up!

     

     

    isplat, thats the best post

    Posted by cwa82675 on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:39 am

    isplat, thats the best post of the day.

    Feathers Ruffled?

    Posted by rogerv on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:32 am

    Most of us praise all that you and steve do. There will always be some that don't appreciate all the time and effort you put in. I have been a member for only over a year, but have learned much and still learn thanks to you and steve. KEEP IT UP !

    Matt and Steve, you are

    Posted by rnix on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:32 am

    Matt and Steve, you are pasionate about your website, your trade suggestions and market analysis are great.

    Here's an explanation that might

    Posted by user32 on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:01 am

    Here's an explanation that might help a bit. Trading the markets is hardly ever about predicting which way it's going to go tomorrow. Probabilities and possibilities are the best you're ever going to get, simply because no one knows for sure. And if you're trying to trade based on predictions, then you might want to rethink things. (As Steve always says, wave counts, etc. are roadmaps and guidelines.) So how do people make money on a regular basis if they don't know the market's direction? It's simple - they make low risk, high reward trades in the direction of the market.

    Here's an example. Let's say a stock moves down to the bottom of a rising channel and stops at the lower trendline. You buy, and set a 3% stop loss underneath your position (below the trendline, and perhaps below a key moving average). Then you set a 12% profit target near the upper trendline. You're risking about 3%, but giving yourself a potential gain of about 12%. So which scenario will play out, up or down? With these odds, it wouldn't matter if you had only a 50% chance of your trade working out (which is about the best I can muster even when all indicators and short-term moving averages are heading in the right direction). You'd still be making money on the balance of your trades if most of them looked as good as this, especially if you managed to cover yourself with a stop on the initial move up.

    So trade low risk, high reward trades in the direction of the market and you should be fine. And what's the market's direction? In the short-term, it's where your 20 and 50 day moving averages are pointed (up or down). Dips to or below these MAs are often short-term buying opportunities, and is often when you see stocks hitting trendlines and intraday charts getting oversold.

    I hope this helps.

    Excellent reply and very constructive

    Posted by steve on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:07 am

    Excellent reply and very constructive - when something is clear I tend to bet more.  Also, focus on support and resistance for entries and exits in conjunction.

    I will do everything I can to assist members.

    BPT's clarity and repetition on

    Posted by eager2 on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:46 am

    BPT's clarity and repetition on S & R points has made a big difference for me.

    The audio commentaries have been very instructive.

    The indicators, Mech Systems, and Watchlists with targets have been very valuable to me.

    And the community also has great value

    Please guys, don't stop! You've got a subscriber for life here.

    I provide the various scenarios

    Posted by steve on 30th of Oct 2009 at 09:34 am

    I provide the various scenarios and you NEED to develop a plan in accordance with you trading objectives and risk tolerance.  You cannot rely upon someone to tell you that the market will do anything with absolute certainty in the short term.  Sometimes there are clear patterns (like last night's falling wedge) in the short term which make for increased probabilities.  

    If you found it to

    Posted by steve on 30th of Oct 2009 at 09:26 am

    If you found it to be useless then you have no idea how to trade the market.  The market is NOT SOMETHING to PREDICT with certainty.  I present the various scenarios that are possible (and will attempt to prioritize when applicable).   I have posted an additional chart above that you may find useful.  

    COMMENTS ON TRDAING PLANS

    Posted by RM686 on 30th of Oct 2009 at 09:43 am

    I found your comments on trading plans and triggers in last nights updaye very interesting. Where do you go to learn those things. I know there are 10,000 trading books out there but they seem to confuse the issue more than help.

    Are there any simple sources available that you know of?

    Pick some triggers that are

    Posted by steve on 30th of Oct 2009 at 09:48 am

    Pick some triggers that are applicable and seem to work with YOUR trading styles and objectives.  Over time, Matt and I have presented many possible triggers so pick and choose what is best suited to your style.

    Trading Styles

    Posted by deberah on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:00 am

    As a business consultant, I've seen many people start businesses (especially on-line businesses) with making money as their only objective.  I suspect that this may be true with traders, especially new traders, who want to make money, but haven't really thought about what their personal style can be and should be.  Unfortunately, with the complete lack of financial education in schools in the U.S. and other places in the world, most people have not learned about financial strategies, investment objectives and how to develop a personal style and plan that creates success.  Of course, to some extent, this can come over time.  But, seems to me that part of what's missing for many asking these types of questions and expressing frustration is basic education.

    Title: Trading Styles The lack

    Posted by dommyv on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:38 am
    Title: Trading Styles

    dommyv I would respectfully disagree. 

    Posted by cwa82675 on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:43 am

    dommyv I would respectfully disagree.  I think each person gathers their own value from the site in different ways.  For me I know how to interpret a chart, but dont have the time to spend finding or analyzing them.  BPT feeds me charts that I can evaluate and make my trading decisions from.  I rarely even listen to the newsletters, but I love the blog.

    hopefully the education section that

    Posted by matt on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:08 am

    hopefully the education section that I'm putting together will be a nice benefit to the website.

    regarding updates, I try to be as definite as possible in which scenario I think will play out.  Sometimes you just have to react to what the market does, you draw two lines, and if it breaks one way then you do that, but if it breaks the other line, then you do that instead.

    but I try to give my honest opinion to what I think will happen as often as I can.  You can listen to my updates and verify that. 

    Anyway, would it help if we do a conference call once a month maybe?  I was thinking about setting up a BPT conference call say once a month on a Saturday for 1 - 2 hrs at a set time, where members could call in, ask questions, share opinions, etc? 

    Exactly, but sometimes what we

    Posted by steve on 30th of Oct 2009 at 10:12 am

    Exactly, but sometimes what we think will occur DOES NOT and we need to be flexible to adjust and it surely helps to be aware of such alternatives at these times.

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