I think this is what we have been trying to achieve....just let
the system work for you without over-thinking. Hopefully, this
trade will work out and we will all have that much more confidence
in the system :) So far so good!
I understand your frustrations but I think this system is a very
very good system and just what I have been looking for, for many
years. I think it does come down to emotions and money management.
Remember its a reversion to the mean system so most of the time, we
aren't going to feel good :)
Possibly, your idea of watching it for awhile or trading a
smaller amount is a good one. That may help you build your
confidence back up. Maybe let the market develop a solid trend in
one direction or another. This change in possible overall trend has
probably affected things a bit.
I wish you and us all good luck with the system and I think it
will play out with patience.
You may not have understood my post completely. My jest was that
I appreciated your posting that the trade would sell the next
morning, earlier in the day. That way, following my own risk
tolerance, and knowing that I'm just not that comfortable holding
overnight in this type market, I could manage yesterdays trade.
I've seen many tweeks on this thread; options (which I don't
use) and others and they have been pretty much accepted by many. I
state in my post that I feel that the system is a guideline and
also that any trading outside of that guideline is our own.
That's why on the first trade I lost out on the 1% but had the
weekend peace of mind I wanted. On this trade I gained the
1%....thats all.
I am an experienced trader and did see the divergence yesterday
so I used the knowledge. I'm not really that emotional but did over
allocate by a small amount to the last trade which I have
corrected. I believe you said use 10% of trading capital and I used
like 20%. Believe me, I would never put all my eggs in one basket,
especially not on a system that really hasn't been traded in real
time for that long.
I absolutely love the spy system and I will say it has helped me
wake up and look for other trading opps at times I may have let
pass. I think you are doing a great job with it and will continue
to follow it religiously.
Matt, did us a favor yesterday in giving us a heads up and I
really appreciate that. He has said that we need to use our own
money management techniques based on our risk tolerance with the
system as a guideline.
With this in mind, yesterday, in the afternoon I placed a tight
stop under my system positions with an intention to sell at the
close if these didn't pick up. I knew my risk tolerance and that I
had put too much in on this trade. I did this last time when Matt
gave a "heads up" and I lost out on the 1% additional gain that the
system booked. This time, I saved myself 1%.
I've seen others on here tweek the system to meet their needs as
well. Even Matt, has bought outside the guidelines when he bought
in the after hours market to get a better price on an entry. I just
know that my risk tolerance is such that I don't like to hold
overnight with this type of market. Futures are traded more than
ever and gaps abound both for and against.
I've been following Sprint (S) for some time. They broke out of
a weekly triangle in March and quickly rallied. Now, it looks like
it's retesting the triangle. Now that they are over $5, I think
more institutional type investors will become interested.
One thing that may spur price increase as well would be that
they will be testing the I-Phone:
Thanks Matt, I do like your pep talks and think it reiterates
why this is just part of one's trading arsenal. I couldn't be
happier with the latest trade and will have to admit as a person
who is more of a swing trader and tends to fall asleep at the helm,
your system is perfect for awakening me to some other trading
opportunities too.
I agree as well Michael. I think it's helpful to hear other
member's experience trading the system. I had also been thinking
about trading IWM or MDY on a signal with part of my trading
capital.
I have been using the system as a way to gradually get invested
in some longer term 401k type investments as well and one of those
is a small cap index. I noticed that the smallcap index did quite
well on this last signal.
I'm sure Matt wouldn't mind as long as we all know that his
results and research is based on trading SPY.
I thought I saw a post over the last couple days about trying to
get more leverage out of the system while using a 401k to
trade.
I think most 401ks don't have choices for funds that trade
double the indexes, other than if you are able to buy rydex or
profunds. In most 401ks I have been in, they have a limited number
of choices.
So, It may work to invest in smallcap on long signals to get
more bang for the buck. For instance, today, the smallcap index is
up 1.1% as I type, while the S&P is up .7
Both are great moves but the small cap usually move like this
and usually follow the overall market as well.
Just another thought for those who have limited
options.
I saw your earlier post about this but since I know very little
about futures and naked options I was really referring to having a
position like an etf and selling calls against it to hedge, as the
other poster had indicated. Sounds like what your doing works well
for you and you understand how to manage it.
I own quite a few stocks with June expiration covered call
hedges on them right now and have noticed this week that there has
been substantial time deterioration in them too.
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I think this is what
just posting to see if anyone else is here
Posted by oreo on 28th of Jun 2011 at 04:49 pm
I think this is what we have been trying to achieve....just let the system work for you without over-thinking. Hopefully, this trade will work out and we will all have that much more confidence in the system :) So far so good!
Wouldn't this be the second
June 24th: Multi Entry system, 2nd Long Entry Notification:
Posted by oreo on 24th of Jun 2011 at 03:34 pm
Wouldn't this be the second entry on the Multi? The notification says third and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. :)
Any new downside targets for
Posted by oreo on 24th of Jun 2011 at 03:02 pm
Any new downside targets for adding to the multi entry if we get a sell-off into the close?
Matt, thanks for keeping us
SPY system current trade
Posted by oreo on 21st of Jun 2011 at 02:35 pm
Matt, thanks for keeping us posted and filling us in on the trending indicator. Nice trade so far! :)
I understand your frustrations but
Spy System Confidence!
Posted by oreo on 16th of Jun 2011 at 10:00 am
I understand your frustrations but I think this system is a very very good system and just what I have been looking for, for many years. I think it does come down to emotions and money management. Remember its a reversion to the mean system so most of the time, we aren't going to feel good :)
Possibly, your idea of watching it for awhile or trading a smaller amount is a good one. That may help you build your confidence back up. Maybe let the market develop a solid trend in one direction or another. This change in possible overall trend has probably affected things a bit.
I wish you and us all good luck with the system and I think it will play out with patience.
Thanks Matt, I think it's
SPY system potential long today
Posted by oreo on 15th of Jun 2011 at 04:02 pm
Thanks Matt, I think it's going to be a good one!
Hi Matt, You may not have
Trading the system
Posted by oreo on 15th of Jun 2011 at 11:19 am
Hi Matt,
You may not have understood my post completely. My jest was that I appreciated your posting that the trade would sell the next morning, earlier in the day. That way, following my own risk tolerance, and knowing that I'm just not that comfortable holding overnight in this type market, I could manage yesterdays trade.
I've seen many tweeks on this thread; options (which I don't use) and others and they have been pretty much accepted by many. I state in my post that I feel that the system is a guideline and also that any trading outside of that guideline is our own.
That's why on the first trade I lost out on the 1% but had the weekend peace of mind I wanted. On this trade I gained the 1%....thats all.
I am an experienced trader and did see the divergence yesterday so I used the knowledge. I'm not really that emotional but did over allocate by a small amount to the last trade which I have corrected. I believe you said use 10% of trading capital and I used like 20%. Believe me, I would never put all my eggs in one basket, especially not on a system that really hasn't been traded in real time for that long.
I absolutely love the spy system and I will say it has helped me wake up and look for other trading opps at times I may have let pass. I think you are doing a great job with it and will continue to follow it religiously.
Thanks!
Trading the system
Posted by oreo on 15th of Jun 2011 at 10:09 am
Matt, did us a favor yesterday in giving us a heads up and I really appreciate that. He has said that we need to use our own money management techniques based on our risk tolerance with the system as a guideline.
With this in mind, yesterday, in the afternoon I placed a tight stop under my system positions with an intention to sell at the close if these didn't pick up. I knew my risk tolerance and that I had put too much in on this trade. I did this last time when Matt gave a "heads up" and I lost out on the 1% additional gain that the system booked. This time, I saved myself 1%.
I've seen others on here tweek the system to meet their needs as well. Even Matt, has bought outside the guidelines when he bought in the after hours market to get a better price on an entry. I just know that my risk tolerance is such that I don't like to hold overnight with this type of market. Futures are traded more than ever and gaps abound both for and against.
Just my thoughts on trading this system.
Will do!
Sprint-one to watch
Posted by oreo on 13th of Jun 2011 at 09:48 pm
Will do!
Sprint-one to watch
Posted by oreo on 13th of Jun 2011 at 02:40 pm
I've been following Sprint (S) for some time. They broke out of a weekly triangle in March and quickly rallied. Now, it looks like it's retesting the triangle. Now that they are over $5, I think more institutional type investors will become interested.
One thing that may spur price increase as well would be that they will be testing the I-Phone:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217532/iPhone_4S_in_advanced_testing_on_Sprint_reports_say?taxonomyId=75
I'm watching this for a re-entry price. There's a gap at 4.8 if it goes that low in some type of panic sell-off.
I don't think it went
MSFT
Posted by oreo on 13th of Jun 2011 at 02:27 pm
I don't think it went quite as low as 23.5 but it is a real deal with PE in the 9s and lots of cash on hand.
I'm planning on it :)
SPY System Signal
Posted by oreo on 10th of Jun 2011 at 02:48 pm
I'm planning on it :)
LOL! Your going to nail
SPY system today
Posted by oreo on 3rd of Jun 2011 at 03:42 pm
LOL! Your going to nail it again Matt! Amazing how close to the closing price your levels have been.
Matt, do we have an
ALERT - long alert
Posted by oreo on 1st of Jun 2011 at 04:07 pm
Matt, do we have an answer yet as to long or not? Looks like there is some confusion as to closing price.
Mine closed right at 131.86;
ALERT - long alert
Posted by oreo on 1st of Jun 2011 at 04:01 pm
Mine closed right at 131.86; is this right?
Thanks Matt, I do like
SPY system comments
Posted by oreo on 1st of Jun 2011 at 09:32 am
Thanks Matt, I do like your pep talks and think it reiterates why this is just part of one's trading arsenal. I couldn't be happier with the latest trade and will have to admit as a person who is more of a swing trader and tends to fall asleep at the helm, your system is perfect for awakening me to some other trading opportunities too.
I agree as well Michael.
Sold my MDY that I bought on system signal. A ...
Posted by oreo on 28th of May 2011 at 11:52 am
I agree as well Michael. I think it's helpful to hear other member's experience trading the system. I had also been thinking about trading IWM or MDY on a signal with part of my trading capital.
I have been using the system as a way to gradually get invested in some longer term 401k type investments as well and one of those is a small cap index. I noticed that the smallcap index did quite well on this last signal.
I'm sure Matt wouldn't mind as long as we all know that his results and research is based on trading SPY.
On signal 401k leveraging (of sorts)
Posted by oreo on 26th of May 2011 at 03:08 pm
I thought I saw a post over the last couple days about trying to get more leverage out of the system while using a 401k to trade.
I think most 401ks don't have choices for funds that trade double the indexes, other than if you are able to buy rydex or profunds. In most 401ks I have been in, they have a limited number of choices.
So, It may work to invest in smallcap on long signals to get more bang for the buck. For instance, today, the smallcap index is up 1.1% as I type, while the S&P is up .7
Both are great moves but the small cap usually move like this and usually follow the overall market as well.
Just another thought for those who have limited options.
Happy Birthday Matt! And what could
Happy Birthday Matt!
Posted by oreo on 25th of May 2011 at 08:07 pm
Happy Birthday Matt!
And what could be a better gift than your beautiful new baby girl... She's adorable!
Hi CW, I saw your earlier
futures...
Posted by oreo on 25th of May 2011 at 08:03 pm
Hi CW,
I saw your earlier post about this but since I know very little about futures and naked options I was really referring to having a position like an etf and selling calls against it to hedge, as the other poster had indicated. Sounds like what your doing works well for you and you understand how to manage it.
I own quite a few stocks with June expiration covered call hedges on them right now and have noticed this week that there has been substantial time deterioration in them too.