Posted by billrosen on 7th of Oct 2009 at 12:00 pm
Oh, so it is not their fault they are poor??? Who's fault
is it then??? Who's responsibilty it is to make them rich??? You
won't find that in the constitution. Although there are
exceptions, the vast mojority of the poor and ignorant are living
the lives they live because they make really dumb decisions in
their lives time and time again. Tough times are pretty much
guaranteed when people
chooseto have 3
kids before they are 20 years old,
choosebe a
criminal and have a felony on their record so they can't get
a decent job,
chooseto abuse
drugs or alcohol,
chooseto be a
horrible parent to their kids so they have no role models,
chooseto stay on
welfare,
chooseto take the
food stamps,
chooseto not learn
English,
chooseto collect
unemployment,
chooseto accept unemployment because it pays not
to work. That is why the poor and stupid remain that way and
yes it their fault and their problem to fix, NOT mine, or yours,
our governments problem to fix. The nice thing about America (or at
least it was) even the most uneducated and poorest people from the
most humble backgrounds can stay in school, save money, live below
their means, raise their kids correctly and become quite wealthly
with hard work and persistence. The problem is we just don't teach
personal responsibilty to anyone, anywhere, on any level,
anymore.
Posted by billrosen on 7th of Oct 2009 at 01:27 pm
Hey, everyone makes mistakes, but most people learn from
them, however those that make immensely stupid, apathetic
and self destructive decisions over and over again deserve
what they get...and my point was, it is their own problem to solve,
not anyone elses. We are soley responsible to ourselves what we get
out of life. Ultimately that philosophy of self reliance will help
lift them out of the lower class. Apparently do not understand
stand that. If you think my point is invalid, why don't
you pony up half of your paycheck each week to the poor
in your own neighborhood since they desperately deserve help to get
out of the problems society has so unfairly burdened them with?
King Edward VI of England was convinced that not all poverty is
the same, but arises from three causes -- casualty, impotence and
thriftlessness. He was also convinced that he would help all the
poor except those in the third class. Those who wasted their money,
due to their lifestyle or financial decisions, would receive
nothing due to their lack of thriftiness.
If our financial institutions go down the drain, it will be
because of thriftlessness, not casualty or impotence. The Clinton
administration allowed a law to be changed so that banks could be
reckless in their investments. Both the Bush and Obama
administrations deemed the large banks too big to fail, despite the
choices they have made. In the process, unfortunately for us, we
will pay dearly, due to the debt that has been placed on our
shoulders. We can invest wisely, but not without an awareness of
the dangers that lie ahead.
And I stand by my original assertion - if "Robin Hood" steals
from the rich and gives to the poor, then said Hood doesn't exist,
since nobody steals from the rich.
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Posted by billrosen on 7th of Oct 2009 at 12:00 pm
Oh, so it is not their fault they are poor??? Who's fault is it then??? Who's responsibilty it is to make them rich??? You won't find that in the constitution. Although there are exceptions, the vast mojority of the poor and ignorant are living the lives they live because they make really dumb decisions in their lives time and time again. Tough times are pretty much guaranteed when people chooseto have 3 kids before they are 20 years old, choosebe a criminal and have a felony on their record so they can't get a decent job, chooseto abuse drugs or alcohol, chooseto be a horrible parent to their kids so they have no role models, chooseto stay on welfare, chooseto take the food stamps, chooseto not learn English, chooseto collect unemployment, chooseto accept unemployment because it pays not to work. That is why the poor and stupid remain that way and yes it their fault and their problem to fix, NOT mine, or yours, our governments problem to fix. The nice thing about America (or at least it was) even the most uneducated and poorest people from the most humble backgrounds can stay in school, save money, live below their means, raise their kids correctly and become quite wealthly with hard work and persistence. The problem is we just don't teach personal responsibilty to anyone, anywhere, on any level, anymore.
It must be nice to
Posted by jbarry on 7th of Oct 2009 at 01:07 pm
It must be nice to be perfect and have never made any mistakes or poor choices.
Hey, everyone makes mistakes, but
Posted by billrosen on 7th of Oct 2009 at 01:27 pm
Hey, everyone makes mistakes, but most people learn from them, however those that make immensely stupid, apathetic and self destructive decisions over and over again deserve what they get...and my point was, it is their own problem to solve, not anyone elses. We are soley responsible to ourselves what we get out of life. Ultimately that philosophy of self reliance will help lift them out of the lower class. Apparently do not understand stand that. If you think my point is invalid, why don't you pony up half of your paycheck each week to the poor in your own neighborhood since they desperately deserve help to get out of the problems society has so unfairly burdened them with?
bill -- you're either preaching
Posted by Michael on 7th of Oct 2009 at 01:42 pm
bill -- you're either preaching to the choir or beating a dead horse. waste of energy either way.
HEY -- FedEx just brought my new computer!
I hear ya Michael, just
Posted by billrosen on 7th of Oct 2009 at 01:46 pm
I hear ya Michael, just trying to educate the ignorant once in awhile, but probably will fall on deaf ears
I hope you're not calling
Posted by jbarry on 7th of Oct 2009 at 03:33 pm
I hope you're not calling me ignorant. There is a big difference between ignorance and compassion. Certain people need help. Not all, but some.
King Edward VI of England
Posted by fkarlson on 7th of Oct 2009 at 12:56 pm
King Edward VI of England was convinced that not all poverty is the same, but arises from three causes -- casualty, impotence and thriftlessness. He was also convinced that he would help all the poor except those in the third class. Those who wasted their money, due to their lifestyle or financial decisions, would receive nothing due to their lack of thriftiness.
If our financial institutions go down the drain, it will be because of thriftlessness, not casualty or impotence. The Clinton administration allowed a law to be changed so that banks could be reckless in their investments. Both the Bush and Obama administrations deemed the large banks too big to fail, despite the choices they have made. In the process, unfortunately for us, we will pay dearly, due to the debt that has been placed on our shoulders. We can invest wisely, but not without an awareness of the dangers that lie ahead.
And I stand by my
Posted by user32 on 7th of Oct 2009 at 12:03 pm
And I stand by my original assertion - if "Robin Hood" steals from the rich and gives to the poor, then said Hood doesn't exist, since nobody steals from the rich.