I'm confused too. Looks to me like during the the last
15-min bar of the day, the 9 EMA crossed and closed above the 39
EMA. Generally that would mean to go long, but of course we
don't do that at 4pm. Doesn't that mean we automatically go
long at the market open tomorrow morning? I don't understand
how a morning gap would matter (except maybe to alert us of a
possible whipsaw in case the market gaps up hard). The gap
won't change the fact that there was already a EMA cross.
trip -- two things -- first, I'm confused now because I put 9/39
on a 15 min SRS chart in TS and I get a cross during the 3:00 to
3:45 candle. I don't know why everyone has different crossing
candles and matt has no crossing candle. But if my cross
happens to be accurate, that means a trade would be entered at the
start of the 3:45 - 4:00 candle. But, with my programming at
least, that trade would then be exited at 3:59 anyway. The day is
over. So you would go into tomorrow flat and waiting for a
down cross.
If you have a cross on the last candle, the 3:45 - 4:00 candle,
the trade does not happen because there are no more candles.
The day is over. You go into tomorrow flat and waiting for a
downcross. If you bought at the open tomorrow based on the
close today, it would not be an end of day system.
Posted by rgoodwin on 12th of May 2009 at 12:15 am
I do not show an entry for the 9/39 SRS system. The cross of the
MA's occurred such that a trade would have entered on the OPEN of
the 4:15 Candle - which obviously will not happen. Now I have seen
instances where a cross like this will create an entry on the
open tomorrow. If I were trading the system, I likely would let the
market open and see what happens - especially if there is going to
be a gap.
I noticed that if your chart is set to regular session, the
system took a trade on the 1600 candle. But this is an
inaccurate setting for the system.
just to clarify -- I just blew up my chart and the cross
yesaterday did occur on the last candle as Robin
said.................so as she said and I said.........that means
no trade.
Michael thanks for explaining things clearly. There's confusion
about the cross even from the blog because you can see Matt's chart
on the blog has the cross but I guess from what he said that his TS
chart did not have it. Just to be sure regarding methodology -- can
you point to a post from Matt regarding the handling of a cross on
the last candle (regardless of what happened today). I just want to
be sure that my backtests and trading rules are in line with Matt's
backtests. no offense to your understanding I hope -- just want to
nail this down.
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I'm confused too. Looks to
SRS 15 min
Posted by trip on 11th of May 2009 at 08:06 pm
I'm confused too. Looks to me like during the the last 15-min bar of the day, the 9 EMA crossed and closed above the 39 EMA. Generally that would mean to go long, but of course we don't do that at 4pm. Doesn't that mean we automatically go long at the market open tomorrow morning? I don't understand how a morning gap would matter (except maybe to alert us of a possible whipsaw in case the market gaps up hard). The gap won't change the fact that there was already a EMA cross.
SRS end of day
Posted by Michael on 11th of May 2009 at 08:45 pm
trip -- two things -- first, I'm confused now because I put 9/39 on a 15 min SRS chart in TS and I get a cross during the 3:00 to 3:45 candle. I don't know why everyone has different crossing candles and matt has no crossing candle. But if my cross happens to be accurate, that means a trade would be entered at the start of the 3:45 - 4:00 candle. But, with my programming at least, that trade would then be exited at 3:59 anyway. The day is over. So you would go into tomorrow flat and waiting for a down cross.
If you have a cross on the last candle, the 3:45 - 4:00 candle, the trade does not happen because there are no more candles. The day is over. You go into tomorrow flat and waiting for a downcross. If you bought at the open tomorrow based on the close today, it would not be an end of day system.
SRS cross 9/39 system
Posted by rgoodwin on 12th of May 2009 at 12:15 am
I do not show an entry for the 9/39 SRS system. The cross of the MA's occurred such that a trade would have entered on the OPEN of the 4:15 Candle - which obviously will not happen. Now I have seen instances where a cross like this will create an entry on the open tomorrow. If I were trading the system, I likely would let the market open and see what happens - especially if there is going to be a gap.
I noticed that if your chart is set to regular session, the system took a trade on the 1600 candle. But this is an inaccurate setting for the system.
exactly thanks Robin, plus I
Posted by matt on 12th of May 2009 at 12:31 am
exactly thanks Robin, plus I already addessed this below and this question has been asked and answered many times in the past
pmu
Posted by fixdgear on 12th of May 2009 at 12:21 pm
what about PMU....looks like a BO today...any thoughts?
thxxxx...
very thinly traded be careful
Posted by billrosen on 12th of May 2009 at 12:31 pm
very thinly traded be careful with that at .20 something cents
just to clarify -- I
Posted by Michael on 12th of May 2009 at 08:21 am
just to clarify -- I just blew up my chart and the cross yesaterday did occur on the last candle as Robin said.................so as she said and I said.........that means no trade.
cross on last candle
Posted by bkout3 on 11th of May 2009 at 11:17 pm
Michael thanks for explaining things clearly. There's confusion about the cross even from the blog because you can see Matt's chart on the blog has the cross but I guess from what he said that his TS chart did not have it. Just to be sure regarding methodology -- can you point to a post from Matt regarding the handling of a cross on the last candle (regardless of what happened today). I just want to be sure that my backtests and trading rules are in line with Matt's backtests. no offense to your understanding I hope -- just want to nail this down.