If the market has put in a real low - there's potential for some of these systems to catch runners - such as the RSI oversold system and QE BTS - at various times in the past they caught moves last 2 to 3 months, I added an example of that from the past on the QE BTS and RSI oversold

    again none of the mean

    Posted by matt on 9th of Oct 2023 at 03:47 pm

    again none of the mean reversion systems are exiting today - they are holding. And it appears that for the RSI oversold and QE BTS systems, a secondary trend hold condition kicked in that is going to hold the trade for a while beyond simple mean reversion bounce

    would be nice if they caught a monster trade like these past ones

    something fun

    Posted by matt on 9th of Oct 2023 at 02:53 pm

    looking through some past images, man  these old FAN scaleout systems we made for the mean reversion systems years ago are so pretty

    The idea was that the fan volatility scaleout could buy too early but still take little draw down on sell offs because it could at times scalout of of most of the 1st and 2nd entries off intra day volatility - here's a few examples

    1.  the Long you see after the short, had 3 entries from one of the mean reversion systems. The first entry was 20 ES contracts - which the system was able to scale out of 17 of those contracts the next day taking profits, only leaving 3 out of the 20 contracts, this meant that on the next sell off, it didn't take any draw down because 85% position of the 1st entry was taken off with profits that more than made up for the draw down on the 3 remaining contracts. The 2nd entry was able to scale out of 1/3 of the position for profits, and the 3rd and final entry scaled out - but notice how the scaleouts were WIDER, not as aggressive, that's because the system adjusted its scaleouts for the increase in volatility, the large candles, and thus widened the scale out prices

    2. shows the Brexexit long back in 2010 I think. 1st entry of 20 contracts was able to scale out of 18 for profits leaving only 2 contracts so that you really had no draw down by the time the 2nd entry occurred

    anyway fun stuff - clearly not something for the website, more of a professional fund etc. However, one day I'll revisit this - right now it's simply doing the mean reversion systems and scaling out, so you have up to 3 main entries. What I think makes more sense is not scale in all the contracts in 1, 2, 3 entries, but scale those in as well like the exits

    anyway fun stuff-  fun fact - I printed one of these out on a powder coated metal - size of a poster board - looks bad ass on the wall

    The fan took a lot

    Posted by srusso1 on 9th of Oct 2023 at 03:00 pm

    The fan took a lot money 20 contracts that is bad to the bone.

    yeah - you ain't doing

    Posted by matt on 9th of Oct 2023 at 03:02 pm

    yeah - you ain't doing that systems without a nice account size LOL. MES would be easier to do.

    again I think it should scale into many parts vs 3 entries to match the scale outs - for fun I'll revisit it one day and try and add that

    by the way the scaleouts make the stats insane: this is from like 2017 but you can see about 6000 trades, 99.4% winners, 642 consecutive winners LOL, and the profit curve is basically a straight line 45 degree angle

    Wow Matt, good to see

    Posted by mundy on 9th of Oct 2023 at 05:30 pm

    Wow Matt, good to see that system again. There was a hedge fund you traded this system for some time back. I tried to sign on but was messed around a bit. If I recall the fund was not allowed to trade more than 15-20% of this "riskier" futures system.   

    yeah the regulatory these days

    Posted by matt on 9th of Oct 2023 at 06:28 pm

    yeah the regulatory these days is extreme. You have to have a Series 3 license to be able to trade more than 10% of the account with futures. And the 10% number was never clear to me what that meant? my guess is that it's whatever the future contract controls, so ES at 4369 x 50 = 218,450, which on a 5 million account only allows you to hold a maximum 22 ES contracts, which would not work on that FAN system. And again - while the scaleouts lower the risk in most cases, it's not always the case if price doesn't bounce intra day and you have solid back to back down candles - which is why I said to really make that system where I'd be happy with the risk is to have it also scale in like it scales out, vs scaling all in on 1, 2, or 3 entries. The way I will approach it when I revisit the systems to still have it scale in some shares on entries 1, 2, and 3 but not all of them, so instead of entering 20 contracts on the first or 2nd entry, have it enter 5, then look to buy the other 15 intra day on pullbacks lower than the main entry 

    I remember that too from

    Posted by skwan1940 on 9th of Oct 2023 at 05:45 pm

    I remember that too from years ago - just curious do you still trade for that hedge fund?

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