I know almost everyone keeps

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    Posted by brophy on 6th of Oct 2023 at 08:38 am

    I know almost everyone keeps saying we're not going to have a recession,"

    I never understood why people say this. Of course we're going to have a recession. It is just a matter of when. A recession is a natural and expected part of the  economic cycle.

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    Posted by brophy on 6th of Oct 2023 at 09:24 am
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    also, the 40 year secular

    Posted by matt on 6th of Oct 2023 at 10:04 am

    also, the 40 year secular bear market in interest rates (secular bull market in bonds) ended early last year with that trendline break on the monthly

    people with too much 'recency' bias thinking rates will eventfully go back down - yes eventually rates will pullback here once TLT bottoms (remember my monthly chart looking at this as a 5th wave and once complete should have a decent ABC bounce, which would provide a pullback in rates).

    anyway the point is: rates being higher is the new normal for the next 10, 20 years as rates are in a secular bull market, bonds are in a secular bear. Again rates won't go up the entire time, but the floor has moved much higher-  not going to see the 10 year go back to 0.6% like it was a few years ago - maybe for my my future grandchildren 

    I never understood this concept

    Posted by arun on 6th of Oct 2023 at 10:16 am

    I never understood this concept of 0-3% rates. In india the lowest rate we ever had was 9%. Currently home loans are around 12-13% and people think its completely normal. Economy in India is booming like no tomorrow. Inflation is also pretty much the same over the years. They have welfare schemes too but not to the level of madness we have in US

    by everyone you mean everyone

    Posted by matt on 6th of Oct 2023 at 08:53 am

    by everyone you mean everyone on CNBC, not us LOL, I"ve never changed my stance on that, the storm is coming, like a storm, it's simply been a very slow moving front, eventually it will eventually reach us

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