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    Posted by donald on 27th of Jan 2012 at 07:03 pm

    Granville, DeMark, Prechter all say we are at top........opinions ?

    Since the market is at

    Posted by tomW1 on 28th of Jan 2012 at 11:36 am

    Since the market is at a major line of resistance calling a top here is a 50/50 bet. It all depends which way it breaks. IMHO the market could easily bust thru and cause many shorts to cover fueling an explosive rally. Most retail investors are not in the market (heard this from someone who has extensive dealings with the retail market) so "they" are not going to "sell". That leaves  the smart money (institutions, mutual funds etc) who really seem to be buying these dips (or blips) anyway. Will they bail? Kinda doubt it.

    yes tomW1exactly, most retail investors are

    Posted by matt on 28th of Jan 2012 at 04:15 pm

    yes tomW1exactly, most retail investors are not in this market, Steve and I have discussed this before.  This is also why the market is so much more volatile than in the past, retail investors can act as a buffer to keep the volatility down.  Analogoy would be like losing the insulation to a house, 

    Basically it's lions vs lions instead of lions vs sheep the sheep would be the retail market.  This is also why when too many people see a pattern develop such as a H&S pattern etc, many times it doesn't play out or it plays out different; because the % of technical traders is so much higher now than what it was in the past when the retail investor was in the market to buffer things down.  By the way, this is why happens in the later stages of secular bear markets, the average retail guy (the masses) lose interest in the market after having been burned for years in major up moves and down moves.  For example, the previous secular bear market lasted from 1966 - 1982 or 16 years.  The Dow hit a high of about 1000 in 1966 and was back to 1000 in 1982, you had 16 years of up and down movements.  The the late 70's I read that most people had shunned the market and were no longer in it because of years of large up and down gyrations.  Then the secular bull market began in 1982 (though the bottom of the market was actually 1975), most of the masses didn't start getting back into the market until the later 1980's.  I think we have a similar thing going on right now: this current secular market market has now entered it's 12th year, so it's nearing the later stages, but it's still too short for a secular bear market to have concluded since most last 16 - 18 years on average.  However just like the 1966 - 1982 secular bear, I think the Mar 2009 lows represented the bottom/lows of this current secular bear so I don't think we'll retest them, just like the 66 - 82 secular bear didn't' retest the 1975 lows even though it lasted until 1982.  ( please see the first chart below)

    In my view, technical analysis is an attempt to analyze the mass human psychology of the market and it identifies areas of support, and where fear and greed will come into play when certain patterns form or trendlines are broken.  However without as many retail guys in the market, it's more technicals against technicians.

    I agree the market is at a juncture, yes it's overbought and decent pullback could gather fuel to provide an even better pullback and downtrend.  however with a lot of traders looking for a top, a squeeze to the upside could also happen as well.  

    For now we've been noting the market conditions, we have been playing the trend with long after long. I realize that we are in a secular bear market that began in 2000 but we are in an uptrend for now.  I've noted too many people over the last month that have not caught any of these nice longs because they have been trying to pick a top and getting stopped out each time.  However a lot of you have also been playing the trend well and catching the ideas.  It's best to catch 80 - 85% of the trend, and let the top and bottom pickers/gurus pick the tops and bottoms.  Yes you'll get stopped out of positions when a trend change occurs, but if you've caught most of the trend, you should still have ample profits left.  

    Think of analyzing and trading the market like weather analysis and driving your car:  For example, let's say you are driving in your car and it's a sunny day (think of this as an uptrend), however you start to see dark clouds overhead and the air starts to cool, therefore this puts us on alert that a storm may be coming and it's might start to rain.  The market analogy to this would be that you are in a strong uptrend but now you see negative divergences starting to form and overbought conditions (think of these as the rain clouds above), so this puts you on alert to tighten your stops etc.

    However going back the example of driving our car and the dark clouds overhead, as we are well aware of, just because dark clouds show up, that doesn't mean it will rain, it just means that it might rain!  Yes it may start raining, which means you slow your car down and drive more carefully, just like in trading you would become much more cautious and exit some or many of your longs etc.  However just like driving, the clouds may go away and the sun pops back out, just like in trading the negative divergences might become negated as the MACD simply recycles back to zero, therefore you continue to play the trend.  Just like in driving, you wait for it to start raining before you slow down, in trading you play the trend until it starts to change.  Price is king

    Since mid Dec we have posted maybe 75 - 100 long ideas and handful of short ideas.  Lately we've been showing 60 min charts of SDS, TZA etc as hedge trades to those of you who may hold a lot of long positions and you don't want to sell them all, so you can use these ETF's as hedges.  Or those of you who are aggressive can take shots buying these ETF's at support (bottom of their channels) but then if the market doesn't continue to sell off, you can exit them.  

    Current Market or weather analysis:

    Is it raining yet or is there only dark clouds overhead?  Currently it is not yet raining, the trend is up, however yes there are dark clouds overhead and thus we are on alert.  The market has now been above the 9 day SMA for 26 straight days and our indicators are overbought ( see the attached chart).  Also, the VIX is now at low levels and since it closed outside the bollinger bands and back inside them, that is a sell signal, so yes we are on alert.   see the attached charts

    see the charts I have attatched

    have a great weekend guys!

    Matt's reply re: "Gurus calling top"

    Posted by sethbru on 30th of Jan 2012 at 03:15 am

    Matt, This is my favorite type of commentary, as I am mostly a 401k investor looking for "big picture" longer term trends. Thanks for posting!

    Newbie

    Posted by janieb on 29th of Jan 2012 at 02:51 pm

    Matt et al, I am a real novice in this game but realise I am in a very special place.   The knowledge and wisdom here is generous in the extreme and, for those of us who are learning, priceless.....I am truly grateful for the time, care and knowledge seemingly so willingly given.  One day, I hope I may be able to give to others who are learning as so many are giving to me....this is a fascinating and enjoyable journey...I thank you all.

    Welcome to BPT

    Posted by steveo on 29th of Jan 2012 at 03:10 pm

    Welcome to BPT

    Thanks for these comments Matt.

    Posted by erty on 29th of Jan 2012 at 11:38 am

    Thanks for these comments Matt. I've seen you remark on these topics before and it's useful to, what, recomment? every once in awhile. Worth sending relevant excerpts to friends and relatives. And your analogies are great.

    thanks for the feedback erty

    Posted by matt on 29th of Jan 2012 at 03:10 pm

    thanks for the feedback erty and others.  Yes I've covered these topics from time to time in the past and I think they are good to reiterate from time to time to put into perspective.  Ultimately I'd like to put these into a section, especially a newsletter write up in the long term tools section explaining the long term market secular cycles, however seems like there is never time. 

    During the weekly grind, I tell myself, OK this weekend I'm going to be productive and add a new section or write up a big article or education on this or that, but you know how it goes, after the grind of the week, I'm burnt out and want to get away from the computer and spend time with the family, and then all of a sudden it's Sunday again and I only have time to do the newsletter, trade ideas, emails, pms etc.  Of course ultimately we find some time to add new things as you've seen the website progress and develop over the last several years quite a bit, but this gives you an idea of why we don't it every weekend, because life gets in the way and the weekly grind of newsletters, trade ideas, trading, blog posts, emails, pms takes it out of us by the weekend, and the weekend is the only time where there would be to work on new things. During the trading week there just isn't time to work on new sections.

    otherwise I hope everyone is enjoying their Sunday!

    Good stuff Matt!

    Posted by tomW1 on 28th of Jan 2012 at 05:15 pm

    Gurus

    Posted by freddy123321 on 28th of Jan 2012 at 07:51 am

    You only have to pick the right one at the right time. Good luck

    LOL yep, so true that's

    Posted by matt on 28th of Jan 2012 at 02:34 pm

    LOL yep, so true that's why it's better to learn how to fish on your own rather than relying on Gurus to catch the fish for you because like freddy said, they are hot for a little while, then they are not, none of them stay hot.

    Here at BPT I do make some predictions and comments and I tell you what I think is going to happen or my preferred scenario, especially for commodities like gold and the grand picture on the market such as secular bull/bear markets i.e. such as I gold will make a new high again, and the general market is in a secular bear market that still has several years to go yet since secular bear markets last on average 16 years, this one started in 2000.  However BPT is much more of a research site vs a Guru site, we provide the analysis, and tons of trade ideas and tools for you to pick and choose from.  Using the 'learn to fish' analogy above, basically we stock the pond with the fish for you to catch.

    I have subscriptions to other services and websites mostly in order to see what my competitors are doing and once in a while to get some ideas, but I make it a point not to read much of their market commentary because I don't want to get a bias and have them influence my own opinions/analysis. 

    gurus

    Posted by drmelillo on 28th of Jan 2012 at 07:08 am

    Granville called a top 12,720.48 he's a very good technician respect his calls and be careful in this mkt

    Didn't follow him then but

    Posted by john9o9 on 28th of Jan 2012 at 11:15 am

    Didn't follow him then but didn't Granville call many tops during the  big bull run of the 90s, NEVER calling a rally in one of the greatest bull markets we have seen??  Kinda like Prechter did?

    Granville and Prechter are best

    Posted by hamvestor on 27th of Jan 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Granville and Prechter are best taken as contrarian indicators. DeMark has a much better record, though his timing has also been a little off lately, if only slightly. All imho.

    donald, charts say yes, of course - and if so for how long ?

    Posted by chas on 27th of Jan 2012 at 08:19 pm

    The market is oversold. That's a fact.

    The main factor that interests me, technically, is that most major index 50 MAs have crossed over their 200 MAs to the upside and the others indicies are catching up - so far - and VIX is the opposite. IMO that is not extremely bearish. But that's just a technical view. That's just what I see in the charts.

    Then there is our economy and the economy of other nations which need help and I'm no expert on that. That's another story. Who knows ? I'm not a guru. It's just what I see in the charts. Tomorrow never knows.

    peace


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