Since it does look like the second entry will take place today,
is there any way to tell from the present state of the system if
this will be a short term trade or not?
Without discussing the actual code, could you talk about how the
SPY system decides to stop looking to go long on pullbacks and
start going long on rallies?
By "every instance," do you mean in the history of the system?
In other words, does the day trade idea off of intra-day lows
and highs have a perfect record during the period that the system
has been backtested? Or are you talking about recent
history?
I've tried to find this information on the blog and in the
website, but I've not been able to. Basically, It would be
useful to know what the backtested winning trade percentage is on
the multi-entry system for entries 2,3, and 4. I ask because
I'm still interested in devising a strategy where you buy SPY on
the initial signal, SSO on the second, and futures or options on
the 3rd and 4th.
To be fair to Floyd, he didn't mean that we should get a message
every day there isn't a trade. I think that he meant that on
those days when a possible trade has been announced a subsequent
message could be sent cancelling the alert.
So, to get it straight, in your calculations, if the multi-entry
system has four trades, it invests four times as much as the single
entry system. Is this correct?
In my view, this board acts responsibly and courteously for the
most part. I see very little whining and bitching. I
see concerned investors wishing to learn more about a system in
which they believe. Sure, sometimes they get a little
nervous, but that's to be expected.
Just to clarify, are the statistics you just posted for the same
investment (in other words, are your calculations based on
something like this: invest X dollars in the single entry
system with each signal; divide X into some percentage, such as 40,
20, 20, 20 and invest that percentage of X in the multi-entry
system with each signal)?
If you have the time, could you compare the single entry and the
multiple entry strategies using options, say over the period that
you've tested.
Also, Tom and I were talking about the folloiwng strategy using
the multiple entry system: Signal 1: Buy SPY; Signal 2:
Buy SSO; Signal 3: Buy SPY options; Signal 4: Buy
more SPY options or futures. If it's not asking too much
(which it almost always is), could you plug these values into your
spreadsheet to see how they compare to the single entry options and
multiple entry options strategies?
I agree with the sticky (better than my Current Trade
idea--thanks, Michael). And I think that Matt is right that
there should be standardized language to indicate what action is to
be taken. That would be easier on Matt and less likely to
confuse new subscribers. Of course, if novel situations
arise, then Matt will do his best to explain them, but such events
should be rare.
I think that there should be one setting for each system (single
entry and multiple entry): Current Position. If a trade
is pending, then place it on that table and lable it as pending,
something like: "Long if SPY closes at or below 130."
Then, when the trade has triggered or not, change the text to
indicate that, so that it reads "In Cash," or "Long SPY from
130."
The multiple entry table would be the same, except that it would
indicate the current entry and subsequent entries.
But the signal was generated today. The system can't
"know" or guess what happens overnight. It can't base a
signal today on what
mighthappen overnight. At least that's my
understanding. If I'm wrong, then, well, I've been educated
and, like I said, this is an educational question. I
don't expect the system to be always profitable, so I'm not
concerned if this trade is a loser. I just want to undertand
the system better.
The SPY system will sell tomorrow at open after a down day.
And yet, it was my understanding the system sold into
strength. Of course, there might be a gap up or a gap down
tomorrow morning, but no one can know that. So, could Matt or
someone explain why the system is selling into weakness.
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Buy DUST with 1/2 of
GDX Short
Posted by algyros on 6th of Jun 2011 at 03:47 pm
Buy DUST with 1/2 of what you would invest in a GDX short.
Since it does look like
SPY system scale in 2nd entry
Posted by algyros on 6th of Jun 2011 at 03:32 pm
Since it does look like the second entry will take place today, is there any way to tell from the present state of the system if this will be a short term trade or not?
Yes, I meant short on
SPY system getting into a shorting mood
Posted by algyros on 3rd of Jun 2011 at 09:53 am
Yes, I meant short on rallies.
Thanks Matt. That was very informative.
SPY system getting into a shorting mood
Posted by algyros on 3rd of Jun 2011 at 08:54 am
Matt,
Without discussing the actual code, could you talk about how the SPY system decides to stop looking to go long on pullbacks and start going long on rallies?
Very intersting, Matt. By "every instance,"
SPY system trade today
Posted by algyros on 2nd of Jun 2011 at 04:26 pm
Very intersting, Matt.
By "every instance," do you mean in the history of the system? In other words, does the day trade idea off of intra-day lows and highs have a perfect record during the period that the system has been backtested? Or are you talking about recent history?
Great work, Tumbler. Thanks.
Spreadsheet Updated
Posted by algyros on 31st of May 2011 at 10:18 am
Great work, Tumbler. Thanks.
Thanks, Tumbler. We all really
Multi- entry using SPY, Ultras, Options
Posted by algyros on 26th of May 2011 at 10:15 pm
Thanks, Tumbler. We all really appreciate your work.
This may be obvious to all but me, but what initial investment are these figures based on?
SPY Multi-entry system
Posted by algyros on 25th of May 2011 at 06:25 pm
I've tried to find this information on the blog and in the website, but I've not been able to. Basically, It would be useful to know what the backtested winning trade percentage is on the multi-entry system for entries 2,3, and 4. I ask because I'm still interested in devising a strategy where you buy SPY on the initial signal, SSO on the second, and futures or options on the 3rd and 4th.
I thought that the Multi-Entry
Closing SPY Position
Posted by algyros on 24th of May 2011 at 08:56 am
I thought that the Multi-Entry system was 40% short and 20% long.
Just kidding.
This post is a great idea. Makes it difficult even for people like me to ask addle-brained questions.
To be fair to Floyd,
you guys are killin me! My 6yr. old grandson can ...
Posted by algyros on 20th of May 2011 at 10:16 am
To be fair to Floyd, he didn't mean that we should get a message every day there isn't a trade. I think that he meant that on those days when a possible trade has been announced a subsequent message could be sent cancelling the alert.
So, to get it straight,
Feedback
Posted by algyros on 19th of May 2011 at 07:42 am
So, to get it straight, in your calculations, if the multi-entry system has four trades, it invests four times as much as the single entry system. Is this correct?
In my view, this board
SPY system comments
Posted by algyros on 18th of May 2011 at 04:30 pm
In my view, this board acts responsibly and courteously for the most part. I see very little whining and bitching. I see concerned investors wishing to learn more about a system in which they believe. Sure, sometimes they get a little nervous, but that's to be expected.
Again, many thanks. Just to clarify,
Feedback
Posted by algyros on 18th of May 2011 at 12:47 pm
Again, many thanks.
Just to clarify, are the statistics you just posted for the same investment (in other words, are your calculations based on something like this: invest X dollars in the single entry system with each signal; divide X into some percentage, such as 40, 20, 20, 20 and invest that percentage of X in the multi-entry system with each signal)?
Thank you for the work
Feedback
Posted by algyros on 18th of May 2011 at 12:18 pm
Thank you for the work that you've done.
If you have the time, could you compare the single entry and the multiple entry strategies using options, say over the period that you've tested.
Also, Tom and I were talking about the folloiwng strategy using the multiple entry system: Signal 1: Buy SPY; Signal 2: Buy SSO; Signal 3: Buy SPY options; Signal 4: Buy more SPY options or futures. If it's not asking too much (which it almost always is), could you plug these values into your spreadsheet to see how they compare to the single entry options and multiple entry options strategies?
Again, many thanks.
I agree with the sticky
my thoughts about announcing pending trades -- I think matt has ...
Posted by algyros on 17th of May 2011 at 05:26 pm
I agree with the sticky (better than my Current Trade idea--thanks, Michael). And I think that Matt is right that there should be standardized language to indicate what action is to be taken. That would be easier on Matt and less likely to confuse new subscribers. Of course, if novel situations arise, then Matt will do his best to explain them, but such events should be rare.
I think that there should
Thoughts/Questions
Posted by algyros on 17th of May 2011 at 04:32 pm
I think that there should be one setting for each system (single entry and multiple entry): Current Position. If a trade is pending, then place it on that table and lable it as pending, something like: "Long if SPY closes at or below 130." Then, when the trade has triggered or not, change the text to indicate that, so that it reads "In Cash," or "Long SPY from 130."
The multiple entry table would be the same, except that it would indicate the current entry and subsequent entries.
Sell and short signals would work the same.
Any luck getting the clarification
Need help with the historical trade data
Posted by algyros on 16th of May 2011 at 06:18 pm
Any luck getting the clarification you need?
But the signal was generated
Educational Question
Posted by algyros on 16th of May 2011 at 05:52 pm
But the signal was generated today. The system can't "know" or guess what happens overnight. It can't base a signal today on what mighthappen overnight. At least that's my understanding. If I'm wrong, then, well, I've been educated and, like I said, this is an educational question. I don't expect the system to be always profitable, so I'm not concerned if this trade is a loser. I just want to undertand the system better.
Educational Question
Posted by algyros on 16th of May 2011 at 05:28 pm
The SPY system will sell tomorrow at open after a down day. And yet, it was my understanding the system sold into strength. Of course, there might be a gap up or a gap down tomorrow morning, but no one can know that. So, could Matt or someone explain why the system is selling into weakness.
The only one that I
Short GDX?
Posted by algyros on 16th of May 2011 at 08:12 am
The only one that I know of is leveraged (2x short): DUST.