Jroger I almost only trade ES options. and sometimes rarely an ES future.
    I sell out-of-money call and buy a further-out-of-money nearer-term call to hedge. So you could call it diagonal calendar credit spreads. Are your vertical spreads credit or debit? Years ago I did verticals but kept losing but in retrospect my strikes were way to close to where the futures were.
    I'm sort of trading the spy system by selling out-of-money ES puts when spy system is long.

    Interesting, do you mostly expect

    Posted by jroger on 7th of Dec 2016 at 06:14 pm

    Interesting, do you mostly expect to close out the position at or before hedge expires?  I look trades for a modest debit position where they spread is reasonably likely and the return is about three times the cost.  I do this when I am betting on the move and want to limit my exposure to the entry price if I am wrong.  I am tuning my selection criteria.

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