Haven't posted this in a

    Posted by a_l_ on 21st of Jun 2016 at 09:36 am

    Haven't posted this in a while. Look at the consensus long ES. Huge week over week delta.

    wow yeah that's a huge

    Posted by matt on 21st of Jun 2016 at 10:04 am

    wow yeah that's a huge change for most of them.  I of course covered gold on the weekend, the commercials, which are sky high at about 300K

    Commercial vs Non Commercial

    Posted by kattap on 22nd of Jun 2016 at 02:31 am

    But Matt, what a_I_ is reporting is Non commercial and what you report on the GOld weekly is the Commercial net short, am I right.

    Also I have heard that most of the the times The Commercial traders are right in medium term, but difficult to really come to that conclusion?

    Matt or a_I_  , or anyone else please comment?

    thanks

    kattap

    I don't think of it

    Posted by a_l_ on 22nd of Jun 2016 at 09:59 am

    I don't think of it in terms of right or wrong, just different groups with different goals. The Commercials are running businesses that often require them to hedge forward -- either selling their production for future delivery to guarantee cash flow or buying forward to lock-in costs. The producers tend, though, to sell more forward at extreme high prices and less near lows. The consumers, obviously, buy more near lows and less near highs. Matt's long-term data tracking looks for those extremes in the commercials, especially the gold producers.

    The non-commercials are speculators and want to be profitable directionally. They crowd trades at extremes and will inevitably be wrong at turns because they tend to herd. The Z-scores I put out, show whether they are stretching the rubber band on 1 & 3 year timeframes.

    Does that help? Both are most helpful at extremes.

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