Just pondering

    Posted by sschulman on 9th of Aug 2011 at 04:31 pm

    So now mkt is back up to where we took the 4th entry. Except I didn't take the 4th entry. So now what? should I take it now?

    No indication from Matt that mkt is now overbought enough to close this trade. Hmmm... maybe take the trade.

    But all the reasons for me not taking the entry (ie my root-canal indicator) are still in place. Hmmm... maybe better not take the trade.


    Am I the only one pondering? Is everyone else SO disciplined?

    .....Susan  Undecided

    I didn't take the 4th entry

    Posted by kalinm on 9th of Aug 2011 at 05:46 pm

    And I'm focusing on un-loading my longs vs. adding.  Wish I had the guts to go all in on the 1101 touch this aft (38% retrace), but I added too many grey hairs over the last week.

    I dug deep and went

    Posted by oreo on 9th of Aug 2011 at 06:02 pm

    I dug deep and went further long in an S&P fund in my 401k yesterday. I just kept telling myself that I would buy at each major fib level down to test Feb 09' lows. (and this seemed to be the 38.2% fib). I also kept telling myself if wrong, I've got 15 years to retirement!

    forget the pondering this is the truth

    Posted by hurricanemalta on 9th of Aug 2011 at 05:24 pm
    Title: thoughts for SS

    "You pays your money and

    Posted by tj6p on 9th of Aug 2011 at 06:25 pm

    "You pays your money and takes your chances" to quote that wise sage Popeye.

     

    Yeah it's been painful (especially at 2x leverage). And it still might get more painful over the coming days.  Have I wanted to sell? You bet.  But I know I can't beat the system's stats on my own.  So I hold on knowing that any mechanical system does what's best based on probability of many similar situations and that it may not choose what's best in any particular situation. (I don't know how to tell the difference between the two in realtime)  I figure venting on the board does no good so I sit down and shut up and wait to see the outcome along with all the others silently suffering this draw down with me.

     

    One concern I have however is the system bases it's recommendations on "typical" market parameters and "this ain't Kansas no more" after the sell off we've had.  But then I refer myself back to my opening quote and think of another quote I've heard lately "it is what it is"  (It doesn't make me feel any better but what will when one is loosing $$$)

    Give it time...

    Posted by burkmere on 9th of Aug 2011 at 07:05 pm

    Not trying to be Pollyannaish here, but seems a year or so of trading will tell the tale...hopefully.  If it's underperforming the market at that point, well, the System's got some 'splainin' to do.  If it's beating it, I'll stay with it. Especially if it's beating it by 10-15% or so.

    Sure, 35% a year average would be nice, but I do think some of that is probably from curve fitting stuff. I think we just don't know how much. Only live trading will tell. Maybe it will continue to average that much and that would be great!

     

     

    Again I agree with you.

    Posted by algyros on 9th of Aug 2011 at 07:44 pm

    Again I agree with you.  But I think that Matt should have waited longer to introduce the system.  He should have waited until a year or so of live trading had occurred to see what realistic expectations for the system should be.  The problem is that, even after this trade, there are subscribers who talk about the system's "history" as if it contains real trades before April.

     

    jeez

    Posted by tsurplus on 9th of Aug 2011 at 09:23 pm

    please, I'm sure Matt feel real bad about this, no need to keep piling on. I am sitting on a big loss too, and wish I had not take this trade (lots of misgivings etc etc). but let's not put the blame on Matt, I'm sure he was trying to help us make money. The mkt is what it is, anything can happen....

    Susan...

    Posted by burkmere on 9th of Aug 2011 at 04:45 pm

    I think you are left to your own devices. Of course, it might have been better to take the trade at 1101 than at 1174 or higher....

    No guarantees in any of this, but personally, I think here we got caught in the middle of a trend shift and one that didn't just sell off a few perecent, but the drawdown from the first buy to the low today is 15%.  I did the multi-trade so don't want to risk more ammo, but if I'd only done the single trade, well....I don't want to give you any ideas, but....

    Good luck!  BPT has provided the mechanical system. Any deviation from that and , well....it's up to you!

     

     

     

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