Posted by dbray740 on 27th of Apr 2009 at 02:56 pm
I couldn't short GDX either. And since I don't feel comfortable
having the availability of shares be the judge of whether or not I
make a trade, it looks like Tradebullet might have another client.
(I just need to find the cash to fund my IB account...)
Posted by dbray740 on 24th of Apr 2009 at 05:45 pm
Same thing here - ended the day with a small loss. I got
stopped out of FAS, and then things took off, and then I gave it
all back at the end of the day. A somewhat disappointing end to an
otherwise fantastic trading week. So I really can't complain.
Posted by dbray740 on 23rd of Apr 2009 at 03:30 pm
That's too bad. Do you do backup archiving? (Go to File,
then Backup/Restore). You can create a backup archive to put on a
disc or email to yourself or whatever, and if everything is
lost or if something gets messed up, you can restore everything
like it was when you created the archive. (I also do it so I can
put it all onto a second computer if my first one dies for some
reason.) I do archiving about once a week and I email the file to
myself. The process of creating an archive stops all backtesting
though, so make sure you don't do it while you're in the
middle of something important. If your computer has been doing
backups automatically, you might try to restore a recent one, and
that should have all of your strategy files as they were. (I'm
posting on this on the blog so that others can benefit from it if
things go wrong.)
Posted by dbray740 on 22nd of Apr 2009 at 04:04 pm
Looks like I only got one trade out of the day (a nice
one though!) I suppose it's a nice break after Monday and
Tuesday when all of my strategies were crazy busy. For those of you
who are trading mechanical trading systems manually, let me tell
you about my trading day: I woke up in time to make sure
my computer was running, took my kid to preschool, went to the
bank to close an account, sat around for a while and ate pretzels,
picked my kid up from preschool and took him home, took the
car to get the brakes fixed, went to some random Japanese
restaurant and ate some things that assaulted my sinuses, and then
came back to check on my trades about 15 minutes before the close.
And I still made more than my average workday. So while these
mechanical systems can be traded manually, you might want to
think about all the other things you could be doing instead. Just a
thought.
Apparently GDX "went" to $1,800,000 yesterday, according to
my TS chart. (Why didn't I set a sell limit beforehand!
:) Obviously it's a mistake, but it's messing with my chart, which
is now a straight line at the bottom of the page since my chart
includes that big move up. Does anyone know how I can adjust
my chart so that I can see my data again, or perhaps refresh it so
that it's no longer an issue? (No doubt it'll affect my results if
I backtest again, which will just tell me to set a profit target to
1.8 million!)
Posted by dbray740 on 21st of Apr 2009 at 03:40 pm
That happened to me when I started using the mechanical
system for GDX. 6 losing days in a row! But I stuck it out and had
some good gains later, which more than compensated me for those
losses. It's just how mechanical systems work.
Posted by dbray740 on 20th of Apr 2009 at 05:56 pm
Today was my best trading day in about a year, and my entire
trading portfolio is up a solid 30% since the end of February
(about 2 months!). Not too shabby! It wouldn't have happened
without this great community. (I don't post often, but I sure
do listen!)
Posted by dbray740 on 17th of Apr 2009 at 09:17 pm
Unfortunately I don't think it would work the same. The trick
with EMAs is that they place more emphasis on more recent candles,
and so that would mess it up (since you have twice as many candles
on a 3 min as opposed to a 6 min). I'm sure you could find a good 5
min one that works nearly as well. I'm personally a big fan of 15
minute systems though (mainly because the 6 min are a pain to
backtest), and I think you've got a few 15 min systems at your
disposal.
Posted by dbray740 on 14th of Apr 2009 at 11:11 pm
I use mkt orders too, but I only buy/sell at market when it's a
highly liquid stock or ETF. (SRS, SSO, etc are great for this). But
if it's lightly traded, then it's generally best to use a limit
order. I once bought some shares of a lightly traded stock for
about 11 cents, but they filled at around 17 cents. Why? Because
nobody was available to sell to me at 11! A limit order would have
saved me the trouble since it wouldn't have filled that high. But
highly traded stocks and ETFs almost always get filled instantly
for me when I buy/sell at market.
Posted by dbray740 on 13th of Apr 2009 at 02:28 pm
I cut out the last 15 minutes as well and end at 4:00 Eastern.
(The after hours stuff is low volume anyway, and my systems work
great without it. Plus you can't place market orders after 4:00 and
so my automated buying/selling doesn't work then anyhow). I set my
end of day at 3:59 so that my system can sell by 4:00. (That gives
my systems 1 full minute to liquidate my positions at market. So
far it hasn't failed to do so.) That means my final candle is
only 14 minutes long, but it doesn't seem to affect the system
much. (At least I don't think it does.)
Sorry to hear about your losses. I think that some people on
this blog (I know a few) has lost at some point almost all of their
portfolio while they learned some big important lesson. (Think of
it as very expensive tuition). Something I'd suggest doing is to
sit back and think about what you've learned in the process. Many
people in your situation go into "break even mode" where they throw
caution to the wind even more in an attempt to gain back what
they've lost, but that rarely turns out well. (Remember, you
haven't lost everything yet. Don't make that mistake.) You might
also want to adopt a few rules for yourself to
avoid situations like this in the future. Three rules
that I always use when trading these markets (leveraged ETFs
especially) are these:
(1) I never hold leveraged ETFs overnight. Some people can, but
I've found that I do quite well intraday without the overnight
terrors. Doesn't work for me emotionally.
(2) ALWAYS use a stop loss. If you can't decide on a stop when
you enter your position, will it be any easier when your stock is
dropping? (You're finding that it's a nearly impossible
decision now. Been there!) I'm sure that a well-placed stop
would have prevented you from getting into this situation. It's
difficult to lose everything when you're stopped out early.
(3) NEVER develop a bias in your trading. I've lost big money in
the past thinking that the market should do this or that. But
the market couldn't care less what you or I think.
So don't anticipate - participate!
I have to use rules and systems, because when it comes to
predicting what the markets will do, I ABSOLUTELY SUCK! In fact, I
challenge anyone here to show a worse record of predicting what the
market will do than me. But I've learned to make money by using
systems, letting my profits run, and cutting my losses short with
stops. There's lots of good information on this site about how to
do that, and people here are willing to help.
Again, very sorry to hear about your losses. Try to use
this opportunity to learn as much as you can. I'm sure it's no fun
at this point, but you'll never learn principles better than when
you're pondering them in the wake of catastrophic losses. One
day in the future I'm sure you'll be quite successful, and
you'll have one heck of a story to tell. You've got a good
attitude. Good luck!
I know how you feel. I've only had 4 days in the past 2 months
where I haven't traded the systems, and each of those 4 days would
have been quite profitable. (The last one would have been my
most profitable trading day so far, but I wasn't trading.) I
don't plan on missing a trading day again for a while.
Unfortunately for me, today was my biggest losing day of the year.
It seems that almost all of my short strategies were triggered just
before the market started moving up. Thank goodness for stops! But
I guess that's the price that one occasionally pays for the
convenience and profits of mechanical trading systems. I just hope
that tomorrow's a good day.
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I couldn't short GDX either.
NO SSO to Short at TS!
Posted by dbray740 on 27th of Apr 2009 at 02:56 pm
I couldn't short GDX either. And since I don't feel comfortable having the availability of shares be the judge of whether or not I make a trade, it looks like Tradebullet might have another client. (I just need to find the cash to fund my IB account...)
Looks like an ascending triangle
Russell 2000
Posted by dbray740 on 26th of Apr 2009 at 11:13 pm
Looks like an ascending triangle to me, although the negative divergence is clear.
Same thing here - ended
Tough trading day .. I ended up down .. I ...
Posted by dbray740 on 24th of Apr 2009 at 05:45 pm
Same thing here - ended the day with a small loss. I got stopped out of FAS, and then things took off, and then I gave it all back at the end of the day. A somewhat disappointing end to an otherwise fantastic trading week. So I really can't complain.
Fortunately it only ran one
Run all stops then go higher?
Posted by dbray740 on 24th of Apr 2009 at 02:52 pm
Fortunately it only ran one of my stops. I didn't like it though.
That's too bad. Do you
EOD Mechancail Systems Page Real Time
Posted by dbray740 on 23rd of Apr 2009 at 03:30 pm
That's too bad. Do you do backup archiving? (Go to File, then Backup/Restore). You can create a backup archive to put on a disc or email to yourself or whatever, and if everything is lost or if something gets messed up, you can restore everything like it was when you created the archive. (I also do it so I can put it all onto a second computer if my first one dies for some reason.) I do archiving about once a week and I email the file to myself. The process of creating an archive stops all backtesting though, so make sure you don't do it while you're in the middle of something important. If your computer has been doing backups automatically, you might try to restore a recent one, and that should have all of your strategy files as they were. (I'm posting on this on the blog so that others can benefit from it if things go wrong.)
Did anyone else think about Bollinger
Somebody asked me
Posted by dbray740 on 23rd of Apr 2009 at 03:18 pm
Did anyone else think about Bollinger Bands while watching that, or was it just me?
Title: Crazy data spikes in
Posted by dbray740 on 23rd of Apr 2009 at 10:27 am
Is anyone else seeing these? I've had to fix about 10 this morning (where the price spikes to $2 million a share or something).
I think you mean 9:30
SSO Mech
Posted by dbray740 on 23rd of Apr 2009 at 10:17 am
I think you mean 9:30 - 4:00 Eastern, right Matt?
Looks like I only got
Posted by dbray740 on 22nd of Apr 2009 at 04:04 pm
Looks like I only got one trade out of the day (a nice one though!) I suppose it's a nice break after Monday and Tuesday when all of my strategies were crazy busy. For those of you who are trading mechanical trading systems manually, let me tell you about my trading day: I woke up in time to make sure my computer was running, took my kid to preschool, went to the bank to close an account, sat around for a while and ate pretzels, picked my kid up from preschool and took him home, took the car to get the brakes fixed, went to some random Japanese restaurant and ate some things that assaulted my sinuses, and then came back to check on my trades about 15 minutes before the close. And I still made more than my average workday. So while these mechanical systems can be traded manually, you might want to think about all the other things you could be doing instead. Just a thought.
Title: TS glitch with GDX Apparently
Posted by dbray740 on 22nd of Apr 2009 at 09:47 am
Apparently GDX "went" to $1,800,000 yesterday, according to my TS chart. (Why didn't I set a sell limit beforehand! :) Obviously it's a mistake, but it's messing with my chart, which is now a straight line at the bottom of the page since my chart includes that big move up. Does anyone know how I can adjust my chart so that I can see my data again, or perhaps refresh it so that it's no longer an issue? (No doubt it'll affect my results if I backtest again, which will just tell me to set a profit target to 1.8 million!)
That happened to me when
Mechanical System SRS etc
Posted by dbray740 on 21st of Apr 2009 at 03:40 pm
That happened to me when I started using the mechanical system for GDX. 6 losing days in a row! But I stuck it out and had some good gains later, which more than compensated me for those losses. It's just how mechanical systems work.
Woo hoo!
Posted by dbray740 on 20th of Apr 2009 at 05:56 pm
Today was my best trading day in about a year, and my entire trading portfolio is up a solid 30% since the end of February (about 2 months!). Not too shabby! It wouldn't have happened without this great community. (I don't post often, but I sure do listen!)
Since you're expecting it, then
Index Shorts
Posted by dbray740 on 20th of Apr 2009 at 10:47 am
Since you're expecting it, then probably not.
Unfortunately I don't think it
mechanical system
Posted by dbray740 on 17th of Apr 2009 at 09:17 pm
Unfortunately I don't think it would work the same. The trick with EMAs is that they place more emphasis on more recent candles, and so that would mess it up (since you have twice as many candles on a 3 min as opposed to a 6 min). I'm sure you could find a good 5 min one that works nearly as well. I'm personally a big fan of 15 minute systems though (mainly because the 6 min are a pain to backtest), and I think you've got a few 15 min systems at your disposal.
I use mkt orders too,
EOD
Posted by dbray740 on 14th of Apr 2009 at 11:11 pm
I use mkt orders too, but I only buy/sell at market when it's a highly liquid stock or ETF. (SRS, SSO, etc are great for this). But if it's lightly traded, then it's generally best to use a limit order. I once bought some shares of a lightly traded stock for about 11 cents, but they filled at around 17 cents. Why? Because nobody was available to sell to me at 11! A limit order would have saved me the trouble since it wouldn't have filled that high. But highly traded stocks and ETFs almost always get filled instantly for me when I buy/sell at market.
I cut out the last
TRADE STATION and EOD
Posted by dbray740 on 13th of Apr 2009 at 02:28 pm
I cut out the last 15 minutes as well and end at 4:00 Eastern. (The after hours stuff is low volume anyway, and my systems work great without it. Plus you can't place market orders after 4:00 and so my automated buying/selling doesn't work then anyhow). I set my end of day at 3:59 so that my system can sell by 4:00. (That gives my systems 1 full minute to liquidate my positions at market. So far it hasn't failed to do so.) That means my final candle is only 14 minutes long, but it doesn't seem to affect the system much. (At least I don't think it does.)
Hi John, Sorry to hear about
I have now learned my lesson in life!!!
Posted by dbray740 on 9th of Apr 2009 at 04:54 pm
Hi John,
Sorry to hear about your losses. I think that some people on this blog (I know a few) has lost at some point almost all of their portfolio while they learned some big important lesson. (Think of it as very expensive tuition). Something I'd suggest doing is to sit back and think about what you've learned in the process. Many people in your situation go into "break even mode" where they throw caution to the wind even more in an attempt to gain back what they've lost, but that rarely turns out well. (Remember, you haven't lost everything yet. Don't make that mistake.) You might also want to adopt a few rules for yourself to avoid situations like this in the future. Three rules that I always use when trading these markets (leveraged ETFs especially) are these:
(1) I never hold leveraged ETFs overnight. Some people can, but I've found that I do quite well intraday without the overnight terrors. Doesn't work for me emotionally.
(2) ALWAYS use a stop loss. If you can't decide on a stop when you enter your position, will it be any easier when your stock is dropping? (You're finding that it's a nearly impossible decision now. Been there!) I'm sure that a well-placed stop would have prevented you from getting into this situation. It's difficult to lose everything when you're stopped out early.
(3) NEVER develop a bias in your trading. I've lost big money in the past thinking that the market should do this or that. But the market couldn't care less what you or I think. So don't anticipate - participate!
I have to use rules and systems, because when it comes to predicting what the markets will do, I ABSOLUTELY SUCK! In fact, I challenge anyone here to show a worse record of predicting what the market will do than me. But I've learned to make money by using systems, letting my profits run, and cutting my losses short with stops. There's lots of good information on this site about how to do that, and people here are willing to help.
Again, very sorry to hear about your losses. Try to use this opportunity to learn as much as you can. I'm sure it's no fun at this point, but you'll never learn principles better than when you're pondering them in the wake of catastrophic losses. One day in the future I'm sure you'll be quite successful, and you'll have one heck of a story to tell. You've got a good attitude. Good luck!
That's assuming they don't hold
off topic - pirates
Posted by dbray740 on 9th of Apr 2009 at 12:42 pm
That's assuming they don't hold the bazooka/rocket launcher backwards. If that happens, we've got bigger problems. :)
I know how you feel.
Posted by dbray740 on 7th of Apr 2009 at 01:57 am
I know how you feel. I've only had 4 days in the past 2 months where I haven't traded the systems, and each of those 4 days would have been quite profitable. (The last one would have been my most profitable trading day so far, but I wasn't trading.) I don't plan on missing a trading day again for a while. Unfortunately for me, today was my biggest losing day of the year. It seems that almost all of my short strategies were triggered just before the market started moving up. Thank goodness for stops! But I guess that's the price that one occasionally pays for the convenience and profits of mechanical trading systems. I just hope that tomorrow's a good day.
I can't say I'm liking
Posted by dbray740 on 1st of Apr 2009 at 03:05 pm
I can't say I'm liking this day much.