Hey Steveo I've traded the TBT

    trade ideas

    Posted by riskmanagerjeff on 3rd of Feb 2010 at 07:16 pm

    Hey Steveo

    I've traded the TBT a few times and I've found it good for swing trades.  But for long term holds, I have to wonder how the "ultra" aspect of it factors into long term performance.  It must have some decay, does it not?  My other consideration was to just short the TLT outright.  Unless you know of a ultralong US treasury ETF I can short...

    Good idea on TLT...if it

    Posted by steveo on 4th of Feb 2010 at 06:29 am

    Good idea on TLT...if it can be found to short.

    Shorting sometime with natural time decay sounds like a great idea.

     

    direxion has a 3X pair

    Posted by ducksoup on 3rd of Feb 2010 at 09:36 pm

    direxion has a 3X pair on 10yr treasuries tyo/tyd, they also have a pair based on 30yr treasuries.  I have played these and they are not as liquid as tbt, and sometimes don't follow the treasury yields as closely as you think they should, but they will definitely provide a bigger move for short term trades...

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