Since there was some talk of the
buy and hold strategy, here's a piece that I wrote back in 2005 for
one of my weekend Newsletters on Secular bull/bear markets:
April 24th, 2005
This week I am expanding upon last
weeks discussion of market cycles: As traders, it can be very
helpful to get a good grasp of market cycles. The stock market
trades in cycles, short term (also called cyclical), and long term
(also called secular). Secular markets typically can last between
10 to 20 years, while cyclical markets usually last between 2 - 3
years on average. Think of a secular market as the primary long
term trend, while a cyclical market is simply a shorter term cycle
within the long term primary secular market. It is very important
to know what cycle the current market is currently in, as this can
greatly affect ones trading. For example, the market was in a
secular bull market from 1982 - 2000. During this time, the market
was in a strong primary uptrend and the DOW Jones increased over 10
fold from about a low of 800 to over 10,000. Of course there were
short term bear markets such as the famous one in 1987, however the
easy money was made on the long side as the primary trend was
obviously up. However, here's where the danger lies:
The majority of investors today
have only experienced a secular bull market, such as the one from
1982 - 2000. Most of us have not experienced a long term secular
bear market where the primary trend is mostly sideways to slightly
down. The last secular bear market lasted 16 years from 1966 to
1982. Just to give you some perspective, the DOW Jones hit a high
near 1000 in 1966, and hit a low in the 800s during 1982! In other
words, the DOW essentially went no where for 16 years!!! During
this time, the 'easy money' was not made on the long or short side,
but by being nimble and moving from one hot sector to the next.
Here's where I see a major problem: I'm sure you all remember the
vicious decline in the Nasdaq from 2000 until early 2003. During
this time, many stock brokers told their clients not to sell their
positions. Brokers were telling their clients that the stock market
always goes up and that the big money was made by holding for the
so called 'long term'. This was not good advice and the general
public suffered huge losses as a result.
Secular Bear Market, 1966
- 1982, (16 years)Prior to the last secular bull market, the market was in a
long term secular bear market which lasted from 1966 to 1982.
During this time, the market essentially went sideways for 16
years. For example, the DOW hit a high of about 1000 in 1966, and
low in the 800s in 1982. If you would have followed your brokers
advice to 'hold for the long term' you would have been greatly
disappointed. 16 years is a long time to make nothing on your
money. The chart of the DOW Jones below from 1966 to 1982 is a
classic example of what a secular bear market looks like. As you
can see, there were strong cynical bull and bear markets during
this time that caused the market to essentially go no where for 16
years. If you could use a time machine and jump forward 10 years
from now, this is how I think a chart of the DOW or Nasdaq will
look like!
Secular Bull Market, 1949
- 1966, (17 years)The DOW was in a secular bull market from 1949 - 1966. As
you can see, the primary trend was up, which is typical for secular
bull markets. The easy money was made by the old 'buy and hold'
strategy.
Secular Bear Market, 1929
- 1949, (20 years)From 1929 until 1949, the DOW was in the most famous
secular bear market which also defined the Great Depression. After
the nightmare crash from 1929 to 1932, the DOW essentually went
sideways to slightly up for the next 17 years, but did not reach
its old highs near 375 until the early 1950s. As you can see, there
was cyclical bull and bear markets during this long term secular
bear market. The DOW experienced the mother of all crashed from
1929 until 1932. Then from 1932 until 1937, the DOW nearly
quadrupled from a low of about 50 to 200. Then from 1937 to 1942
the DOW lost about half of its value from near 200 to about 100
(cyclical bear). Then from 1942 to 1949 the DOW recovered (cyclical
bull).
Secular Bull Market, 1921
- 1929, (8 years)From 1921 until 1929, the DOW was in a strong secular bull
market. Compare this chart to the DOW chart from 1982 to 2000 and
note how similar they look. Anyway, as you can see, the primary
trend was up, and the easy money was made by buying and holding for
the long term.
Secular Bull Market, 1905
- 1921, (16 years)The DOW was in a secular bear market from 1905 until 1921.
As you can see, this secular bear market was typical of most
secular bear markets, such as the one from 1966 - 1982, composed of
mostly vicious cyclical bull and bear markets that result in a
mostly sideways long term movement.
As you can see, it is very important to note what the primary
secular trend the market is current in. During secular bull
markets, the easy money is make by buying and holding for the long
term. However, during secular bear markets, this buy and hold
strategy would send you to the poor house, or at least, the boredom
house very quickly
So the point to take from my post on secular bull/bear
markets: the 'buy and hold' works in secular bull marikets,
which we are not in.
Regarding the buy and hold statistics that the major wallstreet
firms push; they generally use statistics only from 1982 (which was
obviously a secular bull maket, or from 1975, which was the low of
the previous secular bear market; or they take the statstics back
to 1900, which obviously was up, but there were long secular bear
markets during that time. The point is, it pays to know what
secular long term cycle you are in. When you are in secular
bear markes, you have to trade the major trends instead
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A look at past Secular Bull & Bear Markets
Posted by matt on 12th of Jul 2009 at 07:49 pm
Since there was some talk of the buy and hold strategy, here's a piece that I wrote back in 2005 for one of my weekend Newsletters on Secular bull/bear markets:
April 24th, 2005
This week I am expanding upon last weeks discussion of market cycles: As traders, it can be very helpful to get a good grasp of market cycles. The stock market trades in cycles, short term (also called cyclical), and long term (also called secular). Secular markets typically can last between 10 to 20 years, while cyclical markets usually last between 2 - 3 years on average. Think of a secular market as the primary long term trend, while a cyclical market is simply a shorter term cycle within the long term primary secular market. It is very important to know what cycle the current market is currently in, as this can greatly affect ones trading. For example, the market was in a secular bull market from 1982 - 2000. During this time, the market was in a strong primary uptrend and the DOW Jones increased over 10 fold from about a low of 800 to over 10,000. Of course there were short term bear markets such as the famous one in 1987, however the easy money was made on the long side as the primary trend was obviously up. However, here's where the danger lies:
The majority of investors today have only experienced a secular bull market, such as the one from 1982 - 2000. Most of us have not experienced a long term secular bear market where the primary trend is mostly sideways to slightly down. The last secular bear market lasted 16 years from 1966 to 1982. Just to give you some perspective, the DOW Jones hit a high near 1000 in 1966, and hit a low in the 800s during 1982! In other words, the DOW essentially went no where for 16 years!!! During this time, the 'easy money' was not made on the long or short side, but by being nimble and moving from one hot sector to the next. Here's where I see a major problem: I'm sure you all remember the vicious decline in the Nasdaq from 2000 until early 2003. During this time, many stock brokers told their clients not to sell their positions. Brokers were telling their clients that the stock market always goes up and that the big money was made by holding for the so called 'long term'. This was not good advice and the general public suffered huge losses as a result.
As you can see, it is very important to note what the primary secular trend the market is current in. During secular bull markets, the easy money is make by buying and holding for the long term. However, during secular bear markets, this buy and hold strategy would send you to the poor house, or at least, the boredom house very quickly
charts
Posted by pjsmitnl on 13th of Jul 2009 at 07:01 am
Matt please put these charts in one of you near term letters , so I can keep them for future reference
Thanks pj
I will add them later
Posted by matt on 13th of Jul 2009 at 07:28 am
I will add them later this morning, I have some errands to run before the bell
So the point to take
Posted by matt on 12th of Jul 2009 at 08:22 pm
So the point to take from my post on secular bull/bear markets: the 'buy and hold' works in secular bull marikets, which we are not in.
Regarding the buy and hold statistics that the major wallstreet firms push; they generally use statistics only from 1982 (which was obviously a secular bull maket, or from 1975, which was the low of the previous secular bear market; or they take the statstics back to 1900, which obviously was up, but there were long secular bear markets during that time. The point is, it pays to know what secular long term cycle you are in. When you are in secular bear markes, you have to trade the major trends instead