Does anyone have the SSO

    Posted by fuzzduzz on 17th of Dec 2008 at 09:47 pm

    Does anyone have the SSO 16X34ema system set up on strategy desk. If so would appreciate the formula...Thanks...

    Strategy Desk formulas

    Posted by twins on 17th of Dec 2008 at 10:42 pm
    Title: SSO formulas

    SSO formulas Strategy Desk

    Posted by bkout3 on 18th of Dec 2008 at 11:49 am

    I have my systems set to execute on the close of the crossing bar. My rules are the same but to prevent an entry on the last bar of the day I added:

    (Bar[Hour,15]=15  AND Bar[Minute,15]=45)=0  AND {then the entry rule}

    FYI if you're new to SD any formula that is true or false will generate a 1 if true or a 0 if false. This can be used to create "If, then.." rules.

    How did you get the

    Posted by twins on 19th of Dec 2008 at 11:14 am

    How did you get the trade to wait until the end of the interval?  I just realized that my formulas worked in backtesting, but in actual use they trigger during the interval.  This just happened to me, where SRS crossed over at 10:46 and triggered a buy of URE, but then the EMAs had uncrossed by the end of the interval, and still haven't crossed.  I think that the "delays" in the BARs may have to be increased from 0 and 1 to 1 and 2.  (But then the backtesting will be off by one interval.)

    Bob in NJ

    Title: SSO Strategy Desk So far

    Posted by bkout3 on 19th of Dec 2008 at 11:35 am
    Title: SSO Strategy Desk

    Guys, Please keep posting on

    Posted by junkmaylbox on 19th of Dec 2008 at 11:36 am

    Guys, Please keep posting on the forum. I am interested in the same possibility. Thanks!

    likewise... AMTD, IB and Ninja - to be automated...

    Posted by pki on 19th of Dec 2008 at 11:42 am

    What is your interval?

    Posted by jglozmani on 18th of Dec 2008 at 11:28 pm

    I have just tested your formulas with SD backtesting. With 1 minute interval there were too many and not very efficient trades. With 15 minutes it does not work at all.

    Why replace the inequality symbols?

    Posted by lsherrer on 17th of Dec 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Why replace the inequality symbols? Wouldn't the formula be the same for an inverse fund like SDS?

    The equality symbols do not

    Posted by fearandloathing on 17th of Dec 2008 at 11:39 pm

    The equality symbols do not need to be changed for different stock symbols, but they do need to be changed for the separate short-side strategy the needs to be implemented and run in Strategy Desk Alert Manager to emulate "THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM"

    OK... I got ya. But

    Posted by lsherrer on 17th of Dec 2008 at 11:45 pm

    OK... I got ya. But why not just buy SDS rather than shorting SSO?

    Strategy Desk SSO

    Posted by twins on 18th of Dec 2008 at 11:19 am

    LS, sorry - I'm just catching up with this.  I actually do buy SDS rather than short SSO (my 401k account doesn't allow shorting), but either way, you need the formula for the triggers to detect the opposite crossings of SSO, which is what the reversing of the inequality symbols accomplishes.

    As an aside, I have done a small amount of backtesting of adding other conditions to the Entry formula to try to minimize whipsaws, such as a threshold on the Stochastic value or Momentum.  I have been able to improve the Win % from about 55% to about 61%, but the overall gain always decreases somewhat.  Has anyone else played with this?

    Bob in NJ

    SSO mechanical system on TD Ameritrade

    Posted by junkmaylbox on 18th of Dec 2008 at 11:58 am
    Title: SSO mechanical system on TD Ameritrade

    BackTesting will answer that, we'd

    Posted by fearandloathing on 18th of Dec 2008 at 12:16 am

    BackTesting will answer that, we'd all like to hear that works out. 

    The two things I can't understand is what is the corrolation between the fast and the slow numbers?  7/21 16/34 9/39 8/71 are numbers we've seen on this site.  Where do they come from, do they come to Matt in a dream?, are they significant numbers, or do they come from brute force backtesting. 

    The other thing I can't fathom is when they do not work, why?  Whipsawing leads to devastation but what other factors lead to a loss.  After yesterday's big swing in SSO and SRS, it was apparent that the market would had to have taken a big sick dive for the EMAs to cross today, I am glad it did not.   If the Bull scenario plays out to plan, we may not see a cross until the phi mate dates, (what the heck are those anyway?)

    They come from brute force

    Posted by dodgerdog on 18th of Dec 2008 at 08:39 am

    They come from brute force backtesting but these numbers can be tweaked over time as analysis warrants.  The key here is that it provides a simple discipline for investors. 

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