Stay far away from crap

    Posted by steve on 5th of Feb 2018 at 06:23 pm

    Stay far away from crap like XIV etc  unless you FULLY UNDERSTAND how these instruments work which I dare say very few do.  Some of you are swing trading this crap and at best they are meant for day trades.   Greed kills and those trading this instrument without fully understanding it deserve to lose funds.   My advice stay far away from ALL these ETN's as I'm not going to take time to explain tonight as I've stated many times to do YOUR HOMEWORK on these PRIOR to even considering trading such instruments.  If you have to ask how they work, should you really be trading them?  Answer: NO

    This pretty much sums up

    Posted by steve on 5th of Feb 2018 at 09:08 pm

    This pretty much sums up what I stated earlier about XIV:

    Credit Suisse Plunges in After-Hours Due to Black Swan Event Unfolding in Volatility ETNs

    Shares of CS are down nearly 7% in after-hours thanks to the rickety bs unfolding in XIV, the inverse volatility ETN — which has been the single best performing ETN over the past 5 years. In what is truly hard to believe, there is a ‘termination’ trigger in this product that permits the underwriter, in this case Credit Suisse, to liquidate the fund in order to prevent a negative equity situation.

    Article on the Credit Suisse ,discussed the

    Posted by matt on 5th of Feb 2018 at 09:33 pm

    Article on the Credit Suisse ,discussed the XIV etc

    That's why I am asking...I

    Posted by oakavekid on 5th of Feb 2018 at 06:26 pm

    That's why I am asking...I want to understand more. I will take my lumps as lessons learned.

    and  for example ES futures

    Posted by matt on 5th of Feb 2018 at 06:25 pm

    and  for example ES futures are now up about 25 points, however XIV has continued to fall, it's now trading at 16.  

    probable some fund or funds got caught trading that as well. 

    XIV now at 11.00 in

    Posted by oakavekid on 5th of Feb 2018 at 06:34 pm

    XIV now at 11.00 in after hours. I bought it with the SPY PRO signals. REALLY bad timing on my part. Watched all the previous signals and sat on my hands until the last two.

    Same here. Heart in my

    Posted by pebs on 5th of Feb 2018 at 06:36 pm

    Same here. Heart in my mouth right now.

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