Excerpt from Bill Gross Letter

    Posted by bearcat4 on 3rd of Feb 2017 at 07:51 pm

    Don't often pay attention to his stuff, but thought this an interesting observation FWIW  so here goes:

    "So for 10-year Treasuries, a multiple of influences obscure a rational conclusion that yields must inevitably move higher during Trump's first year in office. When the fundamentals are confusing, however, technical indicators may come to the rescue and it's there where a super three decade downward sloping trend line for 10-year yields could be critical. Shown in the chart below, it's obvious to most observers that 10-year yields have been moving downward since their secular peak in the early 1980s, and at a rather linear rate. 30 basis point declines on average for the past 30 years have lowered the 10-year from 10% in 1987 to the current 2.40%.

    Chart: 10-year Treasuries returns for the past 30 years

    Source: Bloomberg.

    Now, however this super strong, frequently tested downward trend line is at risk of being broken. 2.55% to 2.60% is the current "top" of this trend line, and over the past few weeks it has held and reversed lower by 15 basis points or so. BUT----------. And this is my only forecast for the 10-year in 2017. If 2.60% is broken on the upside – if yields move higher than 2.60% – a secular bear bond market has begun. Watch the 2.6% level. Much more important than Dow 20,000. Much more important than $60-a-barrel oil. Much more important that the Dollar/Euro parity at 1.00. It is the key to interest rate levels and perhaps stock price levels in 2017."

     

                          

    Does he ever mention the

    Posted by a_l_ on 4th of Feb 2017 at 02:18 pm

    Does he ever mention the correlation between YoY GPD and the 10 year? Quarterly GDP rate of change sets the conditions for YoY GDP to crack 3% and head towards 4% this year. If that comes to pass, 3% on the 10 year is highly probable.

    I saw nothing like that

    Posted by bearcat4 on 4th of Feb 2017 at 05:11 pm

    I saw nothing like that in his letter. I was completely unaware that such a relationship existed.

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