Can't remember what newsletter it was possibly last Wednesday's
but I believe Matt said that we had 5 waves down into Thursday's
drop and he would be a big buyer of that and then the next update
was someone else who said nothing of the sort and actually said the
opposite. I held off selling on Thursday waiting for Matt to
give his update and his partner totally contradicted him. You
guys should be on the same page when dealing with such key areas of
support. If i got that wrong, I apologize but I don't I
did.
kimberly - also these messages are best sent to us privately so
that we can try to help you vs the blog where we might not see it
in after hrs if it gets drowned out by other posts and I dont' want
a multiple conversation drowning out other posts. send us a
pm, just click on the icon that looks like an envelope and send us
a message, I also gave you my email. you also have your own private
inbox, see the left hand side under tools
and regarding your GDX position, you need to manage it now.
If you have not done so, put a stop loss on your trade
immediately! Do NOT wait, put it in now, pick a number that
you feel comfortable with, not having a stop loss in place is what
the 'masses' do and you don't want to be like them.
also you have to realize that GDX is moving very quickly with large
volatility, therefore we might be looking at one possibility one
night only to have it completely change the next day with a huge
move. Honestly novice traders should really avoid trading it
at this point, it's like playing with fire every day. Also we
have been quite clear that any trade is just a trade, NOT a swing
trade, and quick trades mean that you have tight stops and an exit
strategy before you even enter it. GDX is in a major
downtrend, it's not something that you buy with out an exit plan
and you need a trigger to buy, and again we've been pretty clear
that an aggressive long trade is for aggressive traders and the
trade would be a short term trade, not a swing at this point.
therefore what you have to do now is manage your position,
decide how much room you want to give it and put a stop in place.
Worst case you get stopped you you can always buy the damn
thing back. Steve and I get stopped out all the time only to
buy back sometimes at higher prices, but we are OK with that if we
feel like the chart looks better and is more likely to go.
Right now trading GDX is picking bottoms, and we are not
about picking bottoms or tops, amateurs do this and lose
money, while the pros simply play the trend and at major tops or
bottoms they hedge their positions.
kimberly- I have
no idea what you are taking about? Also you are on a free
trial and have not really been here long enough to perhaps
understand wave counts and how the site works etc.
While I agree that Steve and I should be on the same page, in
fact I think we are! When Steve does his newsletter he
listens to mine and vice versa, I listen to his, we often follow up
on each other now.
I went back and listened to what I said last Wednesday and I
didn't say anything like that, Steve and I have been stressing how
GDX and these gold stocks are in severe downtrends for a long time;
now have we looked for bottomed action along the way, yes, but we
haven't gotten it. last Wednesday I pointed out the bear flag
pattern and I said that I would like to see another sell off to
form perhaps a divergent low on the 60 min chart or form that bull
wedge pattern we had drawn at that time - however the sell off that
occurred was too deep and blew that pattern away. You need a
trigger to buy and there as not been a trigger. On April 8th
I showed a 15 min chart and that played out of nice trade, but it
was only a 15 min chart and it played out to target.
also you have to realize that GDX is moving very quickly with
large volatility, therefore we might be looking at one possibility
one night only to have it completely change the next day with a
huge move. Honestly novice traders should really avoid
trading it at this point, it's like playing with fire every day
It sounds like you own GDX, I have no idea what price you own it
at, why you bought it, when you bought it, and when you did buy it,
what was your exit plan? Always always have a plan, have stops in
place. We have been clear that this is a sector that novices
should avoid trying to pick bottoms, any long trade is just a trade
at this point not a swing trade. We have stated that until
GDX had a good reversal and bounce, that swing traders should look
at buying a higher low with a stop, playing with GDX now or last
week is not for folks who are new at this and don't have a trading
plan, use stops etc. Steve discusses a lot of this in his
private tutorials about what to look for when swing trading, which
take 2 - 3 hrs, however these are only available to paying members
because of the time involved.
I'm sorry to hear that you are sitting on a loss, but it also
sounds like you didn't have a plan in place, didn't use stops etc,
and again I have no idea when or why you bought.
you can send me your trade details to : bptrades@gmail.com, and
we can discuss further
Larry Pesavento feels GOLD and GDX have done Gartley LT
retracements and should head higher, after all the Fed is still
pumping 85Billion into money supply per month and has 3.5 Trillion
in Bonds in its balance sheet.
The Money Supply is at HISTORIC Proportions as The Banks drain
the US treasury.
Velocity of money is exapnding and would cause hyperinflation if
the Banks were not shorting commodities.
Since they do short commodities QE is OK and they cana continue
pumping cash to banks and insiders.
whats it spell.. They can only hold prices back so long.
rcohane- honestly
I'd just throw that stuff out the window and focus on charts and
price action first and foremost, to me all those articles are just
noise. I've read all that stuff for years, but all it has
done is caused gold bugs to become overly biased always on the long
side, and trapped into holding too long, not taking profits and
holding downtrends.
I say just follow the charts -
throwthe articles
away, forget
the conspiracy theories, it won't help your trading, in
fact it can hurt it by making you overly bias
In fact it's articles like that from the Sinclaire's of the
world who have brain washed gold bulls into always believing that
gold has to go up, never take profits. Steve and I have
spoken with so many gold bugs who have held gold stocks all the way
down and are in pain - it's better to
throwout the noise,
focus on charts and price action
GDX Monthly head and shoulders
Posted by roger on 16th of Apr 2013 at 05:39 pm
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDX&p=M&b=5&g=5&id=p60708677666&a=299460099&r=1366148284825&cmd=print
Title: A Bit Miffed Here Can't
Posted by kimberly on 16th of Apr 2013 at 05:51 pm
Can't remember what newsletter it was possibly last Wednesday's but I believe Matt said that we had 5 waves down into Thursday's drop and he would be a big buyer of that and then the next update was someone else who said nothing of the sort and actually said the opposite. I held off selling on Thursday waiting for Matt to give his update and his partner totally contradicted him. You guys should be on the same page when dealing with such key areas of support. If i got that wrong, I apologize but I don't I did.
Title: kimberly kimberly - also these
Posted by matt on 16th of Apr 2013 at 09:31 pm
kimberly - also these messages are best sent to us privately so that we can try to help you vs the blog where we might not see it in after hrs if it gets drowned out by other posts and I dont' want a multiple conversation drowning out other posts. send us a pm, just click on the icon that looks like an envelope and send us a message, I also gave you my email. you also have your own private inbox, see the left hand side under tools
and regarding your GDX position, you need to manage it now. If you have not done so, put a stop loss on your trade immediately! Do NOT wait, put it in now, pick a number that you feel comfortable with, not having a stop loss in place is what the 'masses' do and you don't want to be like them.
also you have to realize that GDX is moving very quickly with large volatility, therefore we might be looking at one possibility one night only to have it completely change the next day with a huge move. Honestly novice traders should really avoid trading it at this point, it's like playing with fire every day. Also we have been quite clear that any trade is just a trade, NOT a swing trade, and quick trades mean that you have tight stops and an exit strategy before you even enter it. GDX is in a major downtrend, it's not something that you buy with out an exit plan and you need a trigger to buy, and again we've been pretty clear that an aggressive long trade is for aggressive traders and the trade would be a short term trade, not a swing at this point.
therefore what you have to do now is manage your position, decide how much room you want to give it and put a stop in place. Worst case you get stopped you you can always buy the damn thing back. Steve and I get stopped out all the time only to buy back sometimes at higher prices, but we are OK with that if we feel like the chart looks better and is more likely to go. Right now trading GDX is picking bottoms, and we are not about picking bottoms or tops, amateurs do this and lose money, while the pros simply play the trend and at major tops or bottoms they hedge their positions.
Title: kimberly kimberly- I have no idea
Posted by matt on 16th of Apr 2013 at 07:48 pm
kimberly- I have no idea what you are taking about? Also you are on a free trial and have not really been here long enough to perhaps understand wave counts and how the site works etc.
While I agree that Steve and I should be on the same page, in fact I think we are! When Steve does his newsletter he listens to mine and vice versa, I listen to his, we often follow up on each other now.
I went back and listened to what I said last Wednesday and I didn't say anything like that, Steve and I have been stressing how GDX and these gold stocks are in severe downtrends for a long time; now have we looked for bottomed action along the way, yes, but we haven't gotten it. last Wednesday I pointed out the bear flag pattern and I said that I would like to see another sell off to form perhaps a divergent low on the 60 min chart or form that bull wedge pattern we had drawn at that time - however the sell off that occurred was too deep and blew that pattern away. You need a trigger to buy and there as not been a trigger. On April 8th I showed a 15 min chart and that played out of nice trade, but it was only a 15 min chart and it played out to target.
also you have to realize that GDX is moving very quickly with large volatility, therefore we might be looking at one possibility one night only to have it completely change the next day with a huge move. Honestly novice traders should really avoid trading it at this point, it's like playing with fire every day
It sounds like you own GDX, I have no idea what price you own it at, why you bought it, when you bought it, and when you did buy it, what was your exit plan? Always always have a plan, have stops in place. We have been clear that this is a sector that novices should avoid trying to pick bottoms, any long trade is just a trade at this point not a swing trade. We have stated that until GDX had a good reversal and bounce, that swing traders should look at buying a higher low with a stop, playing with GDX now or last week is not for folks who are new at this and don't have a trading plan, use stops etc. Steve discusses a lot of this in his private tutorials about what to look for when swing trading, which take 2 - 3 hrs, however these are only available to paying members because of the time involved.
I'm sorry to hear that you are sitting on a loss, but it also sounds like you didn't have a plan in place, didn't use stops etc, and again I have no idea when or why you bought.
you can send me your trade details to : bptrades@gmail.com, and we can discuss further
GDX - There are Multiple opinions.
Posted by rcohane on 16th of Apr 2013 at 06:48 pm
Larry Pesavento feels GOLD and GDX have done Gartley LT retracements and should head higher, after all the Fed is still pumping 85Billion into money supply per month and has 3.5 Trillion in Bonds in its balance sheet.
The Money Supply is at HISTORIC Proportions as The Banks drain the US treasury.
Velocity of money is exapnding and would cause hyperinflation if the Banks were not shorting commodities.
Since they do short commodities QE is OK and they cana continue pumping cash to banks and insiders.
whats it spell.. They can only hold prices back so long.
rcohane- honestly I'd just throw that
Posted by matt on 16th of Apr 2013 at 07:51 pm
rcohane- honestly I'd just throw that stuff out the window and focus on charts and price action first and foremost, to me all those articles are just noise. I've read all that stuff for years, but all it has done is caused gold bugs to become overly biased always on the long side, and trapped into holding too long, not taking profits and holding downtrends.
I say just follow the charts - throw the articles away, forget the conspiracy theories, it won't help your trading, in fact it can hurt it by making you overly bias
In fact it's articles like that from the Sinclaire's of the world who have brain washed gold bulls into always believing that gold has to go up, never take profits. Steve and I have spoken with so many gold bugs who have held gold stocks all the way down and are in pain - it's better to throw out the noise, focus on charts and price action
Everyone has an opinion
Posted by mrab on 16th of Apr 2013 at 07:29 pm
Measures to below 20.
Posted by darnelds on 16th of Apr 2013 at 05:41 pm
Measures to below 20.