$SSEC -- new multi-year lows..... again

    Posted by kalinm on 21st of Dec 2011 at 09:43 pm

    Broken record.... not sure when it will matter (or, it might cause a flight to "high quality US stocks").

    Copper will tell

    Posted by lebow on 22nd of Dec 2011 at 01:52 pm

    I agree that SSEC is important. It seems to be 3-6 month before the rest of the market. Its strange that the index is not going up when the government is signalling more support to the economy and at least three different state owned funds recently have declared that they have started to buy in the stock market. Seems to be a big deleveraging going on in China, a pre taste of what may happen in the Western World. I suppose copper will tell when its time to get out of the general market.

    copper consolidation

    Posted by ectoplasm on 22nd of Dec 2011 at 02:13 pm

    I wonder if copper is already posting a warning: recent consolidation at the end of the triangle...

     

     

    I would throw gold stocks

    Posted by kalinm on 22nd of Dec 2011 at 02:27 pm

    I would throw gold stocks into this category of China/Copper etc.  The bulls premise is that big time inflation will casue a rise in equities.  If inflation were running rampant (if the chinese are in fact able to continue with 9% GDP growth year after year after year), then gold stocks should be going to the moon in anticipation of gold going to $2500.  Especially after 19 months of consolidation (going nowhere), gold stocks should be set for a MASSIVE run.  Lately, they have been underperforming and are at risk of breaking down from a broadening top pattern.  Seems there is a panic/mania to get into US dividend paying stocks -- the latest safe haven.

    Seems also being a trend from sovereign bonds to corp bonds

    Posted by lebow on 22nd of Dec 2011 at 02:40 pm

    Agree again but in the major sell offs people seems to jump into gold just to get burned when all margin calls forces funds and people to also sell gold.

    Another big theme is that funds are starting to buy corporate bonds instead/or as a supplement to sovereign bonds. That was unthinkable just a few years ago. The default risk on, for example Russia is 17% coming 5 years. The same risk for Microsoft in the CDS market is 4,3%. That's lower than US with 4,5% probability right now. China has 12% probability. 

     

     

    for a nothing gain.  The interesting thing is that the selling pressure is not as apparent as just the lack of buying.  I think that could change very quickly but not right yet apparently.  I'll be looking for an entry around 1750 ish, if we go down that far.  The DJ world chart is none too positive right now either.  No matter, I'm still playing for the next few weeks to be generally positive in the US. We'll see.

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