"...selling stampedes typically last 17 – 25 sessions with only
1 – 3 session pauses/corrections before they exhaust themselves.
Last Friday was session 21 in the selling skein making this decline
long of tooth. Also of note is the Dow’s Dive has left the NYSE
McClellan Oscillator more oversold than it has been in
years...There were only six occasions in the past 60 years when the
Pressure Factor has dropped below -160...
None of those instances
saw the S&P even 1% lower one week later. Only one
instance saw the market negative one month later – last summer
which marked the correction bottom. And interestingly – perhaps
coincidentally – 5 of the 6 saw the market up over 19% twelve
months later.
Such oversold extremes typically do not mark the
beginningof a bear
market...view is reinforced by the Yield Curve, which has been
one of the most reliable predictors of recessions. To wit, every
recession for the past 50 years has been preceded by an inverted
Yield Curve (short-term interest rates above long-term interest
rates). Currently, the Yield Curve is very steeply sloped..."
I sold my August Put options on UYM (double long Materials) at
the end of July for $1 since I do not like my options to expire
worthless. They are selling for $10 today. I have several similar
examples. I am so disgusted that I did not wait another week on my
Puts!
I am having a similar problem. When I refreshed my chart, I saw
2 white (buy) boxes disappear and turn into 1 red box. WTF! Got
burned twice now trying to trade this.
The mini-crash Thursday took the
Industrials precisely to the bottom boundary of a well-defined
parallel declining trend-channel from March 2011. This bottom
boundary stopped the crash cold. This could be significant,
suggesting stocks could bounce sharply from here, maybe after a few
days of slightly lower prices crawling along that lower boundary,
or maybe right away tomorrow. Further sharp selling would be very
Bearish.
The Crash Thursday took the S&P
500 down to the bottom boundary of a less than textbook perfect,
but nevertheless valid Declining Bullish Expanding Wedge pattern
similar to Canada's TSX, and interestingly, this bottom boundary,
which is well-defined, stopped the plunge cold.
Perhaps even more interesting,
Thursday's plunge took the S&P down to the precise price level
it would need to get to for completion of the bottom boundary of an
impressive, symmetrical, megaphone pattern. If so, this pattern
requires a powerful rally to start within days that takes the
S&P 500 substantially higher.
But, this Vector Vest comment is a general observation of a
bottom signal from their founder. They are a momentum and trending
system, so they do not try to forecast or buy early and they do not
officially send a Buy signal until after the trend turns up. So,
that was just an indicator of a likely bottom (similar to extreme
oversold indicators we have seen elsewhere), not their
official uptrend Buy.
Yes. When the Vector Vest Buy/Sell recommendation
ratio falls below 0.20 and when their Market Timing Indicator
also falls below 0.60 (where above 1.0 loosely indicates uptrend)
at the same time, this generally marks a bottom or very near a
bottom.
Marketguy, I'm in the same boat. I have been loaded long and WAS
hedged via a buttload of Aug Puts which I foolishly sold in the
middle of last week since I wanted to capture a small gain in case
a rally this week caused them to expire worthless. Huge mistake as
I could have offset most of the losses from the last 2 weeks.
Vector Vest has a "bottom indicator" which has been fairly good
during major selloffs (i.e. Japan nuclear crisis, last year's
summer correction, etc.) by checking when certain thresholds
have been penetrated on the downside for both their Market
Timing Indicator and Buy/Sell Ratio. These thresholds
were almost reached 2 days ago, and will likely be breached due to
today's action. So, this may be bullish.
I was under the impression the SPY System would look to buy the
oversold dips when the market is in an overall Up trend, and short
the overbought rallies when the market is in a Down trend. Is this
correct? Given that all of the BPT Intermediate indicators turned
down on July 26-27, thus implying a Down trend, I am curious why
the SPY System subsequently looked to buy over the next week?
Thanks.
While there is the possibility stocks are crashing here, we do not
believe that is the case. We believe there is compelling evidence
that suggests a bottom is close at hand that will lead to a rally
of at least 500 points, possibly much more.
First, let's look at some new evidence that arrives out of
Tuesday's plunge, that suggests stocks should be significantly
higher sometime over the next 4 to 6 weeks. Tuesday's McClellan
Oscillator fell to negative -271.25. We went back and researched
each time this deep oversold reading was approached since 2008. We
found 14 such incidences, and in every case, the Industrials rose
500 to 1,500 points sometime within the subsequent four to six
weeks, with one exception, the October 6th, 2008 reading of
negative -328.36. The Industrials could only manage a 150 point
rally during the subsequent 4 to 6 week period. The road was often
rocky in many instances, where prices fell lower initially after
similar deep oversold readings, before a significant rally took
over. The point is, if history is a teacher, we should see stocks
bottoming now, and should be 5 to 10 percent higher within the next
month to six weeks, based upon the McClellan Oscillator.
Isn't it odd for the oscillator to rise on a down day? Would
anybody interpret this as an indicator of a short-term bottom
(i.e. a reversal from oversold)?
Bove, noted financial sector analyst at Rochdale, just said that
he has gone to all cash as "the sky is falling". Of course, this is
the same guy who issued a strong Buy recommendation for Lehman days
before they went bankrupt, so maybe this is a contrary
indicator?
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Jeffrey Saut's (Raymond James Fin.) Wise Comments
Posted by sethbru on 8th of Aug 2011 at 01:52 pm
Jeffrey Saut usually offers a very calm rational opinion at http://www.raymondjames.com/inv_strat.htm. Some quotes from today's weekly missive:
"...selling stampedes typically last 17 – 25 sessions with only 1 – 3 session pauses/corrections before they exhaust themselves. Last Friday was session 21 in the selling skein making this decline long of tooth. Also of note is the Dow’s Dive has left the NYSE McClellan Oscillator more oversold than it has been in years...There were only six occasions in the past 60 years when the Pressure Factor has dropped below -160... None of those instances saw the S&P even 1% lower one week later. Only one instance saw the market negative one month later – last summer which marked the correction bottom. And interestingly – perhaps coincidentally – 5 of the 6 saw the market up over 19% twelve months later. Such oversold extremes typically do not mark the beginningof a bear market...view is reinforced by the Yield Curve, which has been one of the most reliable predictors of recessions. To wit, every recession for the past 50 years has been preceded by an inverted Yield Curve (short-term interest rates above long-term interest rates). Currently, the Yield Curve is very steeply sloped..."
Same here! Stop copying my
historic sell off
Posted by sethbru on 8th of Aug 2011 at 01:42 pm
Same here! Stop copying my moves or you'll keep losing $$.
Gold $2500 target
Gold $2500 by year end
Posted by sethbru on 8th of Aug 2011 at 01:16 pm
Maybe by month end!
Misery Loves Company
looked at some 15 and 30 min systems I went away from
Posted by sethbru on 8th of Aug 2011 at 11:19 am
Market Guy,
I sold my August Put options on UYM (double long Materials) at the end of July for $1 since I do not like my options to expire worthless. They are selling for $10 today. I have several similar examples. I am so disgusted that I did not wait another week on my Puts!
Renko
Renko charts, 10 and 30 min
Posted by sethbru on 8th of Aug 2011 at 11:06 am
I am having a similar problem. When I refreshed my chart, I saw 2 white (buy) boxes disappear and turn into 1 red box. WTF! Got burned twice now trying to trade this.
From McHugh last night:
Posted by sethbru on 5th of Aug 2011 at 03:37 pm
The mini-crash Thursday took the Industrials precisely to the bottom boundary of a well-defined parallel declining trend-channel from March 2011. This bottom boundary stopped the crash cold. This could be significant, suggesting stocks could bounce sharply from here, maybe after a few days of slightly lower prices crawling along that lower boundary, or maybe right away tomorrow. Further sharp selling would be very Bearish.
The Crash Thursday took the S&P 500 down to the bottom boundary of a less than textbook perfect, but nevertheless valid Declining Bullish Expanding Wedge pattern similar to Canada's TSX, and interestingly, this bottom boundary, which is well-defined, stopped the plunge cold.
Perhaps even more interesting, Thursday's plunge took the S&P down to the precise price level it would need to get to for completion of the bottom boundary of an impressive, symmetrical, megaphone pattern. If so, this pattern requires a powerful rally to start within days that takes the S&P 500 substantially higher.
In the casino (Reno) we
Intra day Reno charts
Posted by sethbru on 5th of Aug 2011 at 03:32 pm
In the casino (Reno) we call the Market. LOL
But, this Vector Vest comment
did we get the Vectorvest buy signal yesterday?
Posted by sethbru on 5th of Aug 2011 at 12:25 pm
But, this Vector Vest comment is a general observation of a bottom signal from their founder. They are a momentum and trending system, so they do not try to forecast or buy early and they do not officially send a Buy signal until after the trend turns up. So, that was just an indicator of a likely bottom (similar to extreme oversold indicators we have seen elsewhere), not their official uptrend Buy.
Yes. When the Vector Vest
did we get the Vectorvest buy signal yesterday?
Posted by sethbru on 5th of Aug 2011 at 12:22 pm
Yes. When the Vector Vest Buy/Sell recommendation ratio falls below 0.20 and when their Market Timing Indicator also falls below 0.60 (where above 1.0 loosely indicates uptrend) at the same time, this generally marks a bottom or very near a bottom.
Marketguy, I'm in the same
my god it was MUCH easier being a perma bear.....
Posted by sethbru on 5th of Aug 2011 at 12:13 pm
Marketguy, I'm in the same boat. I have been loaded long and WAS hedged via a buttload of Aug Puts which I foolishly sold in the middle of last week since I wanted to capture a small gain in case a rally this week caused them to expire worthless. Huge mistake as I could have offset most of the losses from the last 2 weeks.
Kobie's 1st rule says Buy
2 Trading rules :(from Kobie s trading desk) :
Posted by sethbru on 4th of Aug 2011 at 03:43 pm
Kobie's 1st rule says Buy and 2nd says Short. So, what are you suggesting?
Puke Indicator
puke indicator...
Posted by sethbru on 4th of Aug 2011 at 02:36 pm
I like that one! Mine is also flashing a "Close your eyes and buy" signal
Vector Vest Likely to Signal Possible Bottom Tonight
Posted by sethbru on 4th of Aug 2011 at 01:48 pm
Vector Vest has a "bottom indicator" which has been fairly good during major selloffs (i.e. Japan nuclear crisis, last year's summer correction, etc.) by checking when certain thresholds have been penetrated on the downside for both their Market Timing Indicator and Buy/Sell Ratio. These thresholds were almost reached 2 days ago, and will likely be breached due to today's action. So, this may be bullish.
Ugly
glord.....ugly.....
Posted by sethbru on 4th of Aug 2011 at 11:52 am
"What I wouldn't give to have my acct balance from two days ago". Heck, I just want my balance from 20 hours ago!
SPY System Strategy in Down vs Up Trends
Posted by sethbru on 4th of Aug 2011 at 11:47 am
Hi Matt,
I was under the impression the SPY System would look to buy the oversold dips when the market is in an overall Up trend, and short the overbought rallies when the market is in a Down trend. Is this correct? Given that all of the BPT Intermediate indicators turned down on July 26-27, thus implying a Down trend, I am curious why the SPY System subsequently looked to buy over the next week? Thanks.
From McHugh this Morning:
Posted by sethbru on 3rd of Aug 2011 at 10:46 am
While there is the possibility stocks are crashing here, we do not believe that is the case. We believe there is compelling evidence that suggests a bottom is close at hand that will lead to a rally of at least 500 points, possibly much more. First, let's look at some new evidence that arrives out of Tuesday's plunge, that suggests stocks should be significantly higher sometime over the next 4 to 6 weeks. Tuesday's McClellan Oscillator fell to negative -271.25. We went back and researched each time this deep oversold reading was approached since 2008. We found 14 such incidences, and in every case, the Industrials rose 500 to 1,500 points sometime within the subsequent four to six weeks, with one exception, the October 6th, 2008 reading of negative -328.36. The Industrials could only manage a 150 point rally during the subsequent 4 to 6 week period. The road was often rocky in many instances, where prices fell lower initially after similar deep oversold readings, before a significant rally took over. The point is, if history is a teacher, we should see stocks bottoming now, and should be 5 to 10 percent higher within the next month to six weeks, based upon the McClellan Oscillator.
McClellan Oscillator Up Today?
Posted by sethbru on 1st of Aug 2011 at 05:58 pm
Isn't it odd for the oscillator to rise on a down day? Would anybody interpret this as an indicator of a short-term bottom (i.e. a reversal from oversold)?
House Passed 1st Version of Debt Limit Bill
Posted by sethbru on 29th of Jul 2011 at 06:38 pm
Every Democrat voted NO. Most Republicans voted YES except some "Tea Partiers" voted NO.
Gap Up or Down
gap down....
Posted by sethbru on 29th of Jul 2011 at 05:30 pm
McClellan oscillator sure looks near a bottom - very oversold, so any good news from WashDC should produce a nice bounce if/when it happens.
Dick Bove - "The sky is falling"
Posted by sethbru on 27th of Jul 2011 at 05:21 pm
Bove, noted financial sector analyst at Rochdale, just said that he has gone to all cash as "the sky is falling". Of course, this is the same guy who issued a strong Buy recommendation for Lehman days before they went bankrupt, so maybe this is a contrary indicator?