Posted by frtaylor on 17th of May 2012 at 10:10 am
I think Matt would not
mind me posting his reply, so here it is.
I'd say the gap should
occur on an open generally however I would generally employ at
least a 15 - 20 min gap rule to see how the gap behaves, because if
gaps are going to be filled, the action over the first 15 - 20 min
is generally telling. Now the SPY system will sell an
oversold bounce, just like the RSI 2 revision to the mean systems,
so I'll leave that up to you, but generally even in bad trades
those systems get out at better prices than what the bad trades are
because of the bounce, however they are unable to get out without a
bounce, and this can be a problem because if the market went into a
free fall they will not exit.
I'll let Steve fill in more since honestly, he's the one who came
up with the term 'Gap of Recognition', therefore he might have more
thoughts on this
Posted by frtaylor on 17th of May 2012 at 08:54 am
Matt,
How do you deal w/ a gap of recognition, from a trading
standpoint, on the day that it is potentially underway? I want to
be smart about a possible gap, as mentioned in the newsletter.
Given that you don't know beforehand whether the gap will
fill during the session, I see a few options:
Sell immediately at the open and wait to see if gap fills. If
it fills, decide whether to re-enter based on the fill itself or
wait for a trigger of some kind (what?).
Wait until EOD and sell then if gap remains. The question
of re-entering isn't an issue in that case, but in the meanwhile
price may have fallen considerably.
Wait for a bounce and sell in accordance w/ the SPY system sell
signal. I worry about this last option: isn't the point of a
gap of recognition that the market will not come back up and fill
the gap before heading significantly lower? And wouldn't the
SPY system in that case give a sell signal at a loss, i.e.,
somewhere well below the gap?
Posted by frtaylor on 14th of May 2012 at 09:52 pm
You really have to be on your toes, and know how set
all kinds of special alarms (Matt, you mentioned once how you do
it, I never looked into it w/ Trader Work Station) to catch these
before they're too far gone. I never seem to get them (
), and I've pretty much given up trying,
because it's too time consuming scanning all the charts.
Okay, I'm now going to the garden to eat worms!
Seriously, I never have figured out how to catch these high
flyers before the fact, or when to jump on board vs. when it's too
far gone. Ultimately I feel like I'm on the outside looking
in, and it's very frustrating.
Posted by frtaylor on 13th of May 2012 at 10:51 am
Wow, that was quite a fever (for an adult), glad you're doing
better. You'll be easily worn out for a few days, so don't overdo
anything or you might relapse! Hope recuperation goes well : ).
Posted by frtaylor on 12th of May 2012 at 08:47 am
Reviewing the video now. Actually, the price action on the
monthly chart and weekly chart both suggest the big swing is going
to be to the up side. Under this scenario, we might get a bit
more weakness and then trend higher again. This would be in
agreement with the article (posted here by someone) about June up
moves during Democratic Presidents' re-election years. Bottom
line, as usual no way to know which way for sure.
Posted by frtaylor on 12th of May 2012 at 08:34 am
I get a free video from another technical trading site, and one
of the two traders had a video showing that a favorite indicator of
his, in addition to price action, suggests a 200-point move coming
next week or so. Of course, the indicator doesn't say which
way the move will go. I'm trying to be prepared for either
direction.
Posted by frtaylor on 11th of May 2012 at 03:41 pm
Well, one is that the system cannot take into account the chart
pattern. It doesn't know we've been going through a topping
process, and it doesn't know anything of head and shoulder
patterns, or any other pattern for that matter. Nor does it
know about seasonality.
Posted by frtaylor on 10th of May 2012 at 05:43 pm
I think we're looking at a fifth entry tomorrow (i.e., prices
will be even lower, there's not actually a 5th entry!), if the JPM
news is any indication.
Posted by frtaylor on 10th of May 2012 at 03:19 pm
Right, that's another very useful one. I was just looking
for that 34/170/34 setting you've lately liked in conjunction w/
the 25/170/25 MACD histogram. Trying to read the SPX right
now, looking for a long or short, short term. The short term
triangle you just posted is the exact thing needed here to use as a
trigger, then watch the histograms for confirmation.
btw, I closed my short based on your triangle.
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that is an amazing cycle!
SPX Daily Cycle - for Gann Followers
Posted by frtaylor on 17th of May 2012 at 12:49 pm
that is an amazing cycle!
I think Matt would not mind
Matt, How do you deal w/ a gap of recognition, from ...
Posted by frtaylor on 17th of May 2012 at 10:10 am
I think Matt would not mind me posting his reply, so here it is.
I'd say the gap should occur on an open generally however I would generally employ at least a 15 - 20 min gap rule to see how the gap behaves, because if gaps are going to be filled, the action over the first 15 - 20 min is generally telling. Now the SPY system will sell an oversold bounce, just like the RSI 2 revision to the mean systems, so I'll leave that up to you, but generally even in bad trades those systems get out at better prices than what the bad trades are because of the bounce, however they are unable to get out without a bounce, and this can be a problem because if the market went into a free fall they will not exit.
I'll let Steve fill in more since honestly, he's the one who came up with the term 'Gap of Recognition', therefore he might have more thoughts on this
thanks
Matt
Matt, How do you deal w/
Posted by frtaylor on 17th of May 2012 at 08:54 am
Matt,
How do you deal w/ a gap of recognition, from a trading standpoint, on the day that it is potentially underway? I want to be smart about a possible gap, as mentioned in the newsletter. Given that you don't know beforehand whether the gap will fill during the session, I see a few options:
No worries, was just being
5th Entry?
Posted by frtaylor on 17th of May 2012 at 08:52 am
No worries, was just being a little humorous. More important is the question I am about to pose.
already entered a 5th, now
5th Entry?
Posted by frtaylor on 16th of May 2012 at 01:56 pm
already entered a 5th, now it's time for a 6th.
25/170/25 and 34/170/34 MACD histograms
SPY 5 min chart - which way?
Posted by frtaylor on 15th of May 2012 at 02:57 pm
25/170/25 and 34/170/34 MACD histograms both on sell on the 5 min chart.
SPY 5 min chart - which way?
Posted by frtaylor on 15th of May 2012 at 02:51 pm
something should give here soon.... Looks more like a descending triangle than a symmetrical one.
shocking news.
Bad omen for France
Posted by frtaylor on 15th of May 2012 at 12:30 pm
shocking news.
You really have to be on your
XNPT
Posted by frtaylor on 14th of May 2012 at 09:52 pm
You really have to be on your toes, and know how set all kinds of special alarms (Matt, you mentioned once how you do it, I never looked into it w/ Trader Work Station) to catch these before they're too far gone. I never seem to get them ( ), and I've pretty much given up trying, because it's too time consuming scanning all the charts. Okay, I'm now going to the garden to eat worms! Seriously, I never have figured out how to catch these high flyers before the fact, or when to jump on board vs. when it's too far gone. Ultimately I feel like I'm on the outside looking in, and it's very frustrating.
Long GDX, stop at 41.35.
Posted by frtaylor on 14th of May 2012 at 01:54 pm
Long GDX, stop at 41.35. We'll see if gets any legs; if not, not a big deal.
Wow, that was quite a
Administrative Note
Posted by frtaylor on 13th of May 2012 at 10:51 am
Wow, that was quite a fever (for an adult), glad you're doing better. You'll be easily worn out for a few days, so don't overdo anything or you might relapse! Hope recuperation goes well : ).
Reviewing the video now. Actually,
Comparison to last summer
Posted by frtaylor on 12th of May 2012 at 08:47 am
Reviewing the video now. Actually, the price action on the monthly chart and weekly chart both suggest the big swing is going to be to the up side. Under this scenario, we might get a bit more weakness and then trend higher again. This would be in agreement with the article (posted here by someone) about June up moves during Democratic Presidents' re-election years. Bottom line, as usual no way to know which way for sure.
I get a free video
Comparison to last summer
Posted by frtaylor on 12th of May 2012 at 08:34 am
I get a free video from another technical trading site, and one of the two traders had a video showing that a favorite indicator of his, in addition to price action, suggests a 200-point move coming next week or so. Of course, the indicator doesn't say which way the move will go. I'm trying to be prepared for either direction.
Well, one is that the
A HA! a fourth entry! that's my cue! Long very ...
Posted by frtaylor on 11th of May 2012 at 03:41 pm
Well, one is that the system cannot take into account the chart pattern. It doesn't know we've been going through a topping process, and it doesn't know anything of head and shoulder patterns, or any other pattern for that matter. Nor does it know about seasonality.
feels like a bear flag!
SPX Views
Posted by frtaylor on 11th of May 2012 at 03:18 pm
feels like a bear flag!
false break looks like.
LNG update
Posted by frtaylor on 11th of May 2012 at 03:09 pm
false break looks like.
Exactly. If I had to
GDX:GLD Ratio...
Posted by frtaylor on 11th of May 2012 at 02:46 pm
Exactly. If I had to do something, I'd be shorting gold itself. But it's easier to walk away.
I think we're looking at
A HA! a fourth entry! that's my cue! Long very ...
Posted by frtaylor on 10th of May 2012 at 05:43 pm
I think we're looking at a fifth entry tomorrow (i.e., prices will be even lower, there's not actually a 5th entry!), if the JPM news is any indication.
Ah, so glad I sold
JPM and other banks hit on after hour news regarding ...
Posted by frtaylor on 10th of May 2012 at 05:41 pm
Ah, so glad I sold that in April!
Right, that's another very useful
custom MACD histogram setting?
Posted by frtaylor on 10th of May 2012 at 03:19 pm
Right, that's another very useful one. I was just looking for that 34/170/34 setting you've lately liked in conjunction w/ the 25/170/25 MACD histogram. Trying to read the SPX right now, looking for a long or short, short term. The short term triangle you just posted is the exact thing needed here to use as a trigger, then watch the histograms for confirmation.
btw, I closed my short based on your triangle.