Posted by davetrader on 4th of Nov 2009 at 07:25 am
I am thinking of switching from TDAmeritrade to another broker
to have better options for automated trading then what SD
offers. Currently I am looking at TradeStation or
IB, What recommendations does the trading community
have here to these two automated trading platforms
Posted by davetrader on 3rd of Nov 2009 at 08:34 am
I just got off the phone with StrategyDesk and there seems to be
no way to automate these settings. He said the program would
need to be able to do a if/then caculation and currently SD is not
able to do that. He said that as the ThinkorSwim trading
platform developes that this may be posible, but that will not be
for several months.
I would appreciate comments if anyone is able to set this up in
another trading platform.
Posted by davetrader on 3rd of Nov 2009 at 06:28 am
Nice improvements, thanks for sharing. Anyone have any
ideas how to write this formula for SrategyDesk for these
changes? I have a few ideas how to write it but need some
help, I plan on trying to call Ameritrade this morning and see if
they can offer any help.
I have been using
the SRS#2 trading system with pretty good success; however, I do
have an issue I am trying to work out with the automated part of
this system using StrategyDesk that I hope someone here can help me
with.
I have not been able to figure out how to write
the formula to not enter the trade until the close of the current
candle, instead my formula enters and exits upon the first time
these MA’s cross.
On Wednesday there was a whipsaw that took me
out and reversed my position, in reality it was a spike down on the
open that caused this to happen, the next 15 minute candle was a
strong move in the other direction to cause the MA to appear as if
they never crossed (if you look back at a chart of this now you
will see where the MA’s came close together but never crossed,
however in reality these MA’s did cross momentarily).
Because of this the stop on my automated system
did not activate my reversal position (I was then long URE with no
stop (not good), which was the wrong direction for the way the MA’s
were trending) for the whipsaw.
I am often busy at work during the day and
cannot look at the market and on Wednesday did not get an
opportunity to look at the market until about an hour before the
close so I was unaware that I was in a position opposite the
current trend, at this point the trade had gone against me by about
8%, of course I immediately exited taking the hit.
If I had been watching live I doubt I would have
exited the long SRS in the morning on the whipsaw and gone short as
the automated system did because the cross did not exist upon the
close of the candle.
I have not been able to write a formula in
StategyDesk that does this; instead the formula just enters and
exits upon the cross, which most of the time works.
I think a work around on this might be to set a
maximum percentage loss into the formula.
Of course if the maximum percentage loss
triggered in the above scenario as happened on Wednesday it would
not reverse the position but instead leave me in cash missing the
strong move up but that would be better than the draw down I saw
Wednesday.
Does anyone have a formula they are using in SD
that acts upon the close of the candle?
I talked with Ameritrade about this and they say
the best I can do is set an offset, however I have found this to be
problematic as well.
Posted by davetrader on 9th of Oct 2009 at 07:40 am
Thanks for including the links to the live charts for the
indicators. Often I spend time recreating charts that you
have in the newsletter so I can watch them during the day and with
these links it saves me from having to do this or trying to find
where you might have posted them somewhere else on the website.
Posted by davetrader on 6th of Oct 2009 at 07:38 am
Steve I appreciate you numbering the charts in the newsletter,
this makes it much simpler to follow along and also to make notes
as to which charts to pay special attention to during the
day. Again thanks for your help.
Posted by davetrader on 21st of Sep 2009 at 05:11 pm
Thanks, yes my automated system entred today as well (I use
strategydesk) however it reversed at 1545 which I do not see why it
should have. The averages on stockcharts were not even close
to crossing back down. I am trying to get TDAmeritrade to
reverse this exit and entry short, but so far no luck with
that.
Did the SRS #2 swing system trigger long this
morning. I show it did and at the close they had not crossed
back down so this position should remain open. However I have
not seen here on the blog where anyone entered a trade.
Posted by davetrader on 7th of Aug 2009 at 04:06 pm
I have seen profits turn into losses to many times to hold
overnight or for the weekend, it is anyones guess which way SRS
heads monday morning, better to be save then sorry, I closed my
short for a small profit.
Posted by davetrader on 6th of Aug 2009 at 08:02 am
smoke and mirrors, the sad thing is with all the market hype by
the media, if the market goes up much further mom and pop and all
those joe the plummer types will start putting there money back
into the market just as the high in this rally is reached and it
all comes crashing down. Stay disciplined!!
Posted by davetrader on 30th of Jul 2009 at 08:55 am
Nice post, regarding trading and trading emotion. One must
master the emotion of trading to become a winning trader over the
long haul. I do not think this can be taught by anyone except
ones self, experience is really the only teacher when it comes to
emotion. To get experience one must trade over and over again
month in and month out. For most I think it takes years to
learn to control trading emotion and even then most experinced
traders will let emtion get the best of them and they will slip and
fall. However you must get back up, reflect on what caused
this set back, learn from it (more experience) and trade
again.
Posted by davetrader on 9th of Jul 2009 at 01:46 pm
I backtest and automate my entries into and out of URE based on
the SRS EMA cross. I use SD at Ameritrade and have it set to
trigger off of what is going on SRS.
Posted by davetrader on 6th of Jun 2009 at 09:04 am
Very good information in hornsats post, I will add my two
cents: It has taken me years at this, but I have gotten to
the point where I can trade with very little emotion: Here are
probably some of the key items that have helped me.
Position size, trade what feels comfortable, keep greed and fear
in check. With smaller accounts keep position size where if
you have a string of losses it will not wipe out your account,
staying in the game is key.
Trade a proven system with a good track record, with the highest
possible win/loss ratio. I use Matt's EMA cross over systems
however I backtest all of them on a weekly bases and determine
which one is currently perfoming the best and that is where I put
my money.
Do not over trade - I bet many of the newer traders here are
trading way to much, I do this to make money not for the sake of
trading. You could have the best system in the world but if
you are taking other more subjective trades with a much lower win
ratio you are burning up your overall profit
Trade money that if you lose it will not have any significant
effect on your
currentfinancial
well being. Sure you may not be able to buy that new boat or
take that nice trip next year, so what, you should still be in
financial good shape
Posted by davetrader on 5th of Jun 2009 at 08:57 pm
Better yet do like I do, I get up in the morning watch Matt or
Steves video before the open, open strategy desk, set the automated
system up to trade long SRS or URE and then leave. I go
golfing or work, or whatever, but I don't worry about it at the end
of the day often after the market closes, I check my account to see
if I took a trade or not and if I made money or not. The next
day I do the same thing, I am constantly trolling for a trade with
this system but since I do not watch it I do not have the emotion
that might cause me to not take the trade or close the trade early
and give up posible profits. It works end of story.
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Posted by davetrader on 22nd of Nov 2011 at 09:34 pm
I am still in the SPY trade not thinking about it much when it is time to exit I will exit and wait for the next trade
Options Exp
Posted by davetrader on 17th of Nov 2011 at 03:43 pm
Matt how much weight should one put to exiting shorts EOD today based on tomorrows Ops expiration and the max pain number on SPY currently around 124
Today's Newsletter
Posted by davetrader on 16th of Nov 2011 at 10:40 am
Matt, Steve or Tom - FYI: There seems to be no link for Today's newsletter on the newsletter page
Trading Platform
Posted by davetrader on 4th of Nov 2009 at 07:25 am
I am thinking of switching from TDAmeritrade to another broker to have better options for automated trading then what SD offers. Currently I am looking at TradeStation or
IB, What recommendations does the trading community have here to these two automated trading platforms
Thanks for the help
StrategyDesk Code
SRS Swing 2 mechanical system possible improvements
Posted by davetrader on 3rd of Nov 2009 at 08:34 am
I just got off the phone with StrategyDesk and there seems to be no way to automate these settings. He said the program would need to be able to do a if/then caculation and currently SD is not able to do that. He said that as the ThinkorSwim trading platform developes that this may be posible, but that will not be for several months.
I would appreciate comments if anyone is able to set this up in another trading platform.
SRS#2 StrategyDesk Formula
SRS Swing 2 mechanical system possible improvements
Posted by davetrader on 3rd of Nov 2009 at 06:28 am
Nice improvements, thanks for sharing. Anyone have any ideas how to write this formula for SrategyDesk for these changes? I have a few ideas how to write it but need some help, I plan on trying to call Ameritrade this morning and see if they can offer any help.
SRS#2 StrategyDesk Formula
Posted by davetrader on 31st of Oct 2009 at 08:59 am
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I have been using the SRS#2 trading system with pretty good success; however, I do have an issue I am trying to work out with the automated part of this system using StrategyDesk that I hope someone here can help me with. I have not been able to figure out how to write the formula to not enter the trade until the close of the current candle, instead my formula enters and exits upon the first time these MA’s cross. On Wednesday there was a whipsaw that took me out and reversed my position, in reality it was a spike down on the open that caused this to happen, the next 15 minute candle was a strong move in the other direction to cause the MA to appear as if they never crossed (if you look back at a chart of this now you will see where the MA’s came close together but never crossed, however in reality these MA’s did cross momentarily). Because of this the stop on my automated system did not activate my reversal position (I was then long URE with no stop (not good), which was the wrong direction for the way the MA’s were trending) for the whipsaw. I am often busy at work during the day and cannot look at the market and on Wednesday did not get an opportunity to look at the market until about an hour before the close so I was unaware that I was in a position opposite the current trend, at this point the trade had gone against me by about 8%, of course I immediately exited taking the hit. If I had been watching live I doubt I would have exited the long SRS in the morning on the whipsaw and gone short as the automated system did because the cross did not exist upon the close of the candle. I have not been able to write a formula in StategyDesk that does this; instead the formula just enters and exits upon the cross, which most of the time works. I think a work around on this might be to set a maximum percentage loss into the formula. Of course if the maximum percentage loss triggered in the above scenario as happened on Wednesday it would not reverse the position but instead leave me in cash missing the strong move up but that would be better than the draw down I saw Wednesday. Does anyone have a formula they are using in SD that acts upon the close of the candle? I talked with Ameritrade about this and they say the best I can do is set an offset, however I have found this to be problematic as well.
Newsletter Links
Posted by davetrader on 9th of Oct 2009 at 07:40 am
Thanks for including the links to the live charts for the indicators. Often I spend time recreating charts that you have in the newsletter so I can watch them during the day and with these links it saves me from having to do this or trying to find where you might have posted them somewhere else on the website.
Good job
Newsletter
Posted by davetrader on 6th of Oct 2009 at 07:38 am
Steve I appreciate you numbering the charts in the newsletter, this makes it much simpler to follow along and also to make notes as to which charts to pay special attention to during the day. Again thanks for your help.
SRS #2 Swing System
SRS #2 Swing System
Posted by davetrader on 21st of Sep 2009 at 05:11 pm
Thanks, yes my automated system entred today as well (I use strategydesk) however it reversed at 1545 which I do not see why it should have. The averages on stockcharts were not even close to crossing back down. I am trying to get TDAmeritrade to reverse this exit and entry short, but so far no luck with that.
SRS #2 Swing System
Posted by davetrader on 21st of Sep 2009 at 04:41 pm
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Did the SRS #2 swing system trigger long this morning. I show it did and at the close they had not crossed back down so this position should remain open. However I have not seen here on the blog where anyone entered a trade.
burned one two many times
srs swing
Posted by davetrader on 7th of Aug 2009 at 04:06 pm
I have seen profits turn into losses to many times to hold overnight or for the weekend, it is anyones guess which way SRS heads monday morning, better to be save then sorry, I closed my short for a small profit.
smoke and mirrors, the sad
US DEBT...
Posted by davetrader on 6th of Aug 2009 at 08:02 am
smoke and mirrors, the sad thing is with all the market hype by the media, if the market goes up much further mom and pop and all those joe the plummer types will start putting there money back into the market just as the high in this rally is reached and it all comes crashing down. Stay disciplined!!
Audio
Posted by davetrader on 30th of Jul 2009 at 08:59 am
Very clear audio on todays update, thanks again for all the work Steve and Matt put into this site.
Nice post, regarding trading and
Great update - very clear. Audio also very good.
Posted by davetrader on 30th of Jul 2009 at 08:55 am
Nice post, regarding trading and trading emotion. One must master the emotion of trading to become a winning trader over the long haul. I do not think this can be taught by anyone except ones self, experience is really the only teacher when it comes to emotion. To get experience one must trade over and over again month in and month out. For most I think it takes years to learn to control trading emotion and even then most experinced traders will let emtion get the best of them and they will slip and fall. However you must get back up, reflect on what caused this set back, learn from it (more experience) and trade again.
I backtest and automate my
SRS 15Min System
Posted by davetrader on 9th of Jul 2009 at 01:46 pm
I backtest and automate my entries into and out of URE based on the SRS EMA cross. I use SD at Ameritrade and have it set to trigger off of what is going on SRS.
Nice politically correct heads up
SRS 15Min Chart
Posted by davetrader on 7th of Jul 2009 at 11:53 am
Nice politically correct heads up or should I say blog correct post on SRS, LOL
Experience over time is the
Emotion
Posted by davetrader on 8th of Jun 2009 at 10:25 am
Experience over time is the real teacher, there are very few things others can tell you to really gain control of trading emotion.
My two cents
Mech trading
Posted by davetrader on 6th of Jun 2009 at 09:04 am
Very good information in hornsats post, I will add my two cents: It has taken me years at this, but I have gotten to the point where I can trade with very little emotion: Here are probably some of the key items that have helped me.
Position size, trade what feels comfortable, keep greed and fear in check. With smaller accounts keep position size where if you have a string of losses it will not wipe out your account, staying in the game is key.
Trade a proven system with a good track record, with the highest possible win/loss ratio. I use Matt's EMA cross over systems however I backtest all of them on a weekly bases and determine which one is currently perfoming the best and that is where I put my money.
Do not over trade - I bet many of the newer traders here are trading way to much, I do this to make money not for the sake of trading. You could have the best system in the world but if you are taking other more subjective trades with a much lower win ratio you are burning up your overall profit
Trade money that if you lose it will not have any significant effect on your currentfinancial well being. Sure you may not be able to buy that new boat or take that nice trip next year, so what, you should still be in financial good shape
Better yet do like I
Posted by davetrader on 5th of Jun 2009 at 08:57 pm
Better yet do like I do, I get up in the morning watch Matt or Steves video before the open, open strategy desk, set the automated system up to trade long SRS or URE and then leave. I go golfing or work, or whatever, but I don't worry about it at the end of the day often after the market closes, I check my account to see if I took a trade or not and if I made money or not. The next day I do the same thing, I am constantly trolling for a trade with this system but since I do not watch it I do not have the emotion that might cause me to not take the trade or close the trade early and give up posible profits. It works end of story.