I have been buried for the last 3 months trying to get up to
speed with TS. I have found it quite frustrating to
continually discover some very fundamental problems with their
backtesting. Too much 'under the hood' detective work it
seems to me.
I actually posted a similar question a while back and it was
suggested that MultiCharts/IB is a preferred combination. Do
you find the MultiChart backtesting functions any better in a
fundamental way than TS? What do you think about eSignal?
Thanks for the comment on Multicharts. I was looking into
them as an alternative. And yes, I realize that TS's platform
allows the complex strategies that those others do not. I
think my use of renko charts is the fly in the ointment. They rely
on tick data and have created some data feed problems apparently.
Time based charts don't seem to have the same issues.
I am not surprised with your problem with TS. I opened an
account about a month ago and I have yet to make a trade due to
technical problems. The lack of useful customer support is
amazing. Their strategy is to provide a forum for users to
work out the bugs themselves. I don't know how they plan to
keep customers as TOS/TDAmeritrade and others with platforms that
don't crash every other day start to offer automated trading.
Is your count that we are in the middle of wave 5 or e (A
complete, B in progress or complete with C still to complete down
and complete 5th or e wave?) which may touch the bottom of the
triangle and breakout to the upside? (I guess, just the
contrary view of some earlier posts.) Thanks.
I concur on your call about Prechter. I am also an EWI
subscriber and have been surprised just how poor their timing can
be. If you traded by their market calls you could go broke
fast.
Their academic writing style tends to cover themselves no matter
which way the market moves. That is ok. They are
building a roadmap of sorts to give a general perspective of where
we might be in the market.
What troubles me have been their unambiguous proclamations such
as the recent calls on the dollar and silver, as well as their
apparent confidence in the end of P2 and Gold. When a usually
'hedged' communicator confidently commits to a position, it is
tempting to consider it more seriously. But in Prechter's
case, you would do so at your own peril.
True to form, they currently appear to be starting the
backtracking process as their positions appear to be premature or
simply incorrect. In fairness to EWI, they are really in the
business of describing what Elliot Wave is indicating.
Traders have to keep it in perspective.
In my opinion, EW theory is very useful. Prechter is a
useful resource to check your EW work, but one shouldn't look to
Prechter or EWI as anything more than a historical mapmaker for the
markets.
Breakpoint has the right perspective on EWI. They use it
as a helpful guide but trade the market. I have learned the
hard way that putting too much weight on EWI can embed some very
unprofitable biases in your trading. I have re-learned that
lesson during the last few weeks with silver.
Matt or Steve- Regarding your weekly USD chart, would there be
any reason to look for the B wave to continue down to backtest the
falling trendline (top of falling wedge)? Looks like it may
not be too far from coinciding with the bottom of your current
daily channel. Thanks.
What you are describing with the 'efficient' application of
capital via tax and public debt finance, etc. is not capitalism.
Neither is China. That is more appropriately
categorized as a statist 'ism' such as corporatism, big difference.
IMO
Glad to hear others who appreciate the TOS platform. The
TOS platform is great. The charting is graphically light
years ahead of eTrade and TDAmeritrade. I trade on a 24 inch
iMac and the TOS and Prophet charts are very easy on the eyes.
Tools take a while to get used to, but its hard to beat TOS
once you get familiar with it; it is especially great for
trading options. Now that I have become familiar with the
platform, it is hard to use my eTrade Pro and TDAmeritrade.
They are very 'clunky'. Too bad TOS doesn't have automated
trading and better backtesting. They told me they should have
automated trading within 9 mos.
I too, have been slowly coming out of the paralyzed state of
mind myself. Since March I have been focusing on the
'pullback' and 'overbought' as my touchstones. I had allowed
my bearish view of the market (which I still hold) to affect my
perspective when trading. I developed an irrational bias
toward trading downtrends that would prevent me from entering into
perfectly logical trading positions because I repeatedly considered
it 'chasing the market for a quick trade'. Rather, I held out
in favor of a more 'solid' entry point for a swing trade during and
after those seemingly eminent pullbacks. The problem is of
course, the quick trade time frame turns out to be multi-days/weeks
of missed rally. Looking back, it is my fault for allowing myself a
bear bias in my decision making. You can still consider the
market as a bear market overall (I still do) but not let it
sabotage your daily trading decisions. I allowed my bear bias
to keep me from entering trades
despite the
fact that perfectly sound advice to the contrary was provided daily
on this site. fwiw.
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Tradestation vs. MultiCharts or eSignal
Tradestation 8.7
Posted by billr on 12th of Feb 2010 at 02:22 pm
I have been buried for the last 3 months trying to get up to speed with TS. I have found it quite frustrating to continually discover some very fundamental problems with their backtesting. Too much 'under the hood' detective work it seems to me.
I actually posted a similar question a while back and it was suggested that MultiCharts/IB is a preferred combination. Do you find the MultiChart backtesting functions any better in a fundamental way than TS? What do you think about eSignal?
Thanks guys. You continue to do nice work.
multicharts etc.
FYI - Tradestation warning/note
Posted by billr on 28th of Dec 2009 at 10:04 am
Thanks for the comment on Multicharts. I was looking into them as an alternative. And yes, I realize that TS's platform allows the complex strategies that those others do not. I think my use of renko charts is the fly in the ointment. They rely on tick data and have created some data feed problems apparently. Time based charts don't seem to have the same issues.
tradestation
FYI - Tradestation warning/note
Posted by billr on 28th of Dec 2009 at 02:33 am
I am not surprised with your problem with TS. I opened an account about a month ago and I have yet to make a trade due to technical problems. The lack of useful customer support is amazing. Their strategy is to provide a forum for users to work out the bugs themselves. I don't know how they plan to keep customers as TOS/TDAmeritrade and others with platforms that don't crash every other day start to offer automated trading.
Is your count that we
SPX 5 Triangle
Posted by billr on 30th of Sep 2009 at 04:37 pm
Is your count that we are in the middle of wave 5 or e (A complete, B in progress or complete with C still to complete down and complete 5th or e wave?) which may touch the bottom of the triangle and breakout to the upside? (I guess, just the contrary view of some earlier posts.) Thanks.
I concur on your call
Prechter on Gold
Posted by billr on 8th of Sep 2009 at 09:26 pm
I concur on your call about Prechter. I am also an EWI subscriber and have been surprised just how poor their timing can be. If you traded by their market calls you could go broke fast.
Their academic writing style tends to cover themselves no matter which way the market moves. That is ok. They are building a roadmap of sorts to give a general perspective of where we might be in the market.
What troubles me have been their unambiguous proclamations such as the recent calls on the dollar and silver, as well as their apparent confidence in the end of P2 and Gold. When a usually 'hedged' communicator confidently commits to a position, it is tempting to consider it more seriously. But in Prechter's case, you would do so at your own peril.
True to form, they currently appear to be starting the backtracking process as their positions appear to be premature or simply incorrect. In fairness to EWI, they are really in the business of describing what Elliot Wave is indicating. Traders have to keep it in perspective.
In my opinion, EW theory is very useful. Prechter is a useful resource to check your EW work, but one shouldn't look to Prechter or EWI as anything more than a historical mapmaker for the markets.
Breakpoint has the right perspective on EWI. They use it as a helpful guide but trade the market. I have learned the hard way that putting too much weight on EWI can embed some very unprofitable biases in your trading. I have re-learned that lesson during the last few weeks with silver.
Haven't you noticed I've been
20(MA) is your friend :)
Posted by billr on 19th of Aug 2009 at 12:22 am
Haven't you noticed I've been busy stirring things up in the Atlantic?
USD
Posted by billr on 10th of Aug 2009 at 02:04 am
Matt or Steve- Regarding your weekly USD chart, would there be any reason to look for the B wave to continue down to backtest the falling trendline (top of falling wedge)? Looks like it may not be too far from coinciding with the bottom of your current daily channel. Thanks.
capitalism?
executive pay is 33% of all wages
Posted by billr on 31st of Jul 2009 at 01:06 pm
What you are describing with the 'efficient' application of capital via tax and public debt finance, etc. is not capitalism. Neither is China. That is more appropriately categorized as a statist 'ism' such as corporatism, big difference. IMO
Glad to hear others who
Ameritrade users
Posted by billr on 29th of Jul 2009 at 12:15 am
Glad to hear others who appreciate the TOS platform. The TOS platform is great. The charting is graphically light years ahead of eTrade and TDAmeritrade. I trade on a 24 inch iMac and the TOS and Prophet charts are very easy on the eyes. Tools take a while to get used to, but its hard to beat TOS once you get familiar with it; it is especially great for trading options. Now that I have become familiar with the platform, it is hard to use my eTrade Pro and TDAmeritrade. They are very 'clunky'. Too bad TOS doesn't have automated trading and better backtesting. They told me they should have automated trading within 9 mos.
new blog
Posted by billr on 26th of Jul 2009 at 12:51 am
Looks good on Safari too for MAC users.
"pullback" paralysis
Mech systems
Posted by billr on 24th of Jul 2009 at 04:59 pm
I too, have been slowly coming out of the paralyzed state of mind myself. Since March I have been focusing on the 'pullback' and 'overbought' as my touchstones. I had allowed my bearish view of the market (which I still hold) to affect my perspective when trading. I developed an irrational bias toward trading downtrends that would prevent me from entering into perfectly logical trading positions because I repeatedly considered it 'chasing the market for a quick trade'. Rather, I held out in favor of a more 'solid' entry point for a swing trade during and after those seemingly eminent pullbacks. The problem is of course, the quick trade time frame turns out to be multi-days/weeks of missed rally. Looking back, it is my fault for allowing myself a bear bias in my decision making. You can still consider the market as a bear market overall (I still do) but not let it sabotage your daily trading decisions. I allowed my bear bias to keep me from entering trades despite the fact that perfectly sound advice to the contrary was provided daily on this site. fwiw.