As far as trading goes (not long term investment), I truly see them as 2-3-4 letter tickers ...  so personally, I really don't care at what they do, sell, make or loose money, etc ...  I strictly look at the chart, keep an eye out for earning dates and if there's any pending thing I need to know about  ... that's about it ...    but as far as the cie itself, I agree ... I also think it's way overpriced for what it is ... and more so  it's longer term sustainability  ...  

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