i have to say this

    Posted by morton7 on 8th of Feb 2018 at 04:39 pm

    i have to say this is more than an interest rate thing....there is some news out there that we dont know about....maybe its war maybe its mueller maybe its a black swan....my two cents....

    Morton - that's possible and

    Posted by steve on 8th of Feb 2018 at 05:09 pm

    Morton - that's possible and the market could be sniffing it out something rotten but Sentiment was off the charts for the bulls and after a semi parabolic move up this is what can happen with the stock indexes.   There is now a setup in place to reverse (but must have a trigger to set a valid stop).  Many pundits are searching for a reason for the decline and they forgot to look at what transpired PRIOR to this selloff.   I hate all the synthetic products these firms have introduced (like XIV) as they always tend to blow up at some time (remember the gurus at Long Term Capital?)  and we have seen many bubbles created with rampant monetary policy worldwide and sooner or later the air must be let out of the balloon.  Absent of a systemic hidden risk, the market can recover and at least provide a re-test of highs over time.   I simply take things one day at a time after nearly 9 years of a market run.  Respect the prevailing trend until evidence changes. 

    s I mentioned before from

    Posted by john9o9 on 8th of Feb 2018 at 06:54 pm

    s I mentioned before from what I understand there was a huge position short vol.  My sense is that the unwind will have bigger ramifications in this world of Immense leveraging and interconnectivity of all these institutions....

    I understand.  but I also

    Posted by morton7 on 8th of Feb 2018 at 05:28 pm

    I understand.  but I also believe people talk and people know things before they happen....

    I was thinking the same

    Posted by econgurl on 8th of Feb 2018 at 05:04 pm

    I was thinking the same thing...

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