Are we sure it is shutting down?  If so, why would anyone buy it?  I am confused.   

    XIV is being redeemed on

    Posted by steve on 6th of Feb 2018 at 04:19 pm

    XIV is being redeemed on Feb 20th - acted horrid on the rally today.  So many trapped it's hard to make guesses but it's looks broken. Consider going to Vegas at least you get a free drink. 

    Steve, thats not even remotely

    Posted by landgreen on 6th of Feb 2018 at 05:05 pm

    Steve, thats not even remotely funny! People lost tens of thousands of dollars on xiv...many on matts recomendation of playing xiv in line with the spy. Saying less at this point would be more.  We all take responsibility for our own risks, but dont sell us advice and then tell us to go get a free drink in vegas..it's insulting!

    Steve Reply: Let's get one thing clear, we NEVER recommended playing XIV in place of SPY.  Those who chose to do so did it entirely on their own and anyone who put such funds at risk  did so with little understanding of the inherent risks involved. I never once sold you any such advice and completely dispute that comment. Anyone who put such large amount of capital at risk with XIV did so 100 percent on their own volition. In my opinion, it was ludicrous to speculate  such large sums of capital on XIV so please get your facts correct.  My comments below are intended to stop the idiocy regarding any further speculation on this ETN since some members inquired about my thoughts today. 

    Landgreen - I understand your

    Posted by steve on 6th of Feb 2018 at 05:18 pm

    Landgreen - I understand your comments and apologize for any insensitivity but it was not meant to be funny.  After the XIV implosion some here are still interested in speculating on XIV after it re-opened for trading today. My point and it's quite serious is that the action today in XIV was not representative of an instrument that is working properly.  To be specific, XIV did NOT rally with the market and is trading lower again after hours.   If I need to be blunt to bring that to members attention I will do so because I care and don't want to see any more carnage.   My comments relate to the HERE and NOW and I sure hope that's quite clear.   Also sent you a private message so check your inbox. 

    Do you think Credit Suisse

    Posted by bpozdoll on 6th of Feb 2018 at 05:56 pm

    Do you think Credit Suisse opened up XIV so traders will sell rather than wait for liquidation?   This might prevent lawsuits on the back end because they can say the market was open and liquid for a couple weeks.   What they don't say is that there is no market for an instrument that shuts down in 2 weeks and this effectively caps the market.   

    Many lost money on the

    Posted by torvix on 6th of Feb 2018 at 05:09 pm

    Many lost money on the crash so far. Wonder if spx is going to look like bitcoin.

    NICE tax loss for many

    Posted by lamb on 6th of Feb 2018 at 04:37 pm

    NICE tax loss for many years to come!!   

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