2 Xticks at this level on SPX

    Posted by blorrilliere on 6th of May 2015 at 01:40 pm

    spy system

    Posted by ship on 6th of May 2015 at 01:45 pm

    I'm new to the spy system- So if you had some signal that it may go long! Is that an indication that this move down is temporary? Or ?

    This has nothing to do

    Posted by blorrilliere on 6th of May 2015 at 01:52 pm

    This has nothing to do with the SPY systems.  All it means is that market behavior is at an extreme based on historical data.   The last couple times we lost Xticks, the market continued down.   As Steve pointed out, this is pretty much the last support until 2048 or so on the SPX.

    totally un-related - the SPY

    Posted by matt on 6th of May 2015 at 02:07 pm

    totally un-related - the SPY systems are their own beast, and there's 3 of them, each independent of the other

    I really meant to say

    Posted by ship on 6th of May 2015 at 02:13 pm

    I really meant to say if Spy system "may" take a trade and potentially any signal to go long, then is this down move at oversold area is limited?           maybe, I am trying to read too much in to things  ( I undersatnd x-tick is a momentum indicator)

    the SPY systems are reversion

    Posted by matt on 6th of May 2015 at 02:36 pm

    the SPY systems are reversion to mean systems, they attempt to buy pullbacks when prices are above long term MA's, which they still are for now anyway.  There are a lot of filters in place to attempt to delay trades and try not to buy too early into pullbacks that turn into much larger pullbacks, however you can't account for everything-  where the systems can get caught is buying too early on a pullback that becomes a much larger correction.  This is also why I use all 3 SPY systems, to try and have some diversification - for example today only 2 of the systems will go long accounting for 58% of the combined - this leaves room for the systems to average in at lower prices should we go lower.

    In order to exit the systems will do so on a bounce, the hope is that even if this correction turns into something much deeper, the market will have oversold bounces that will allow them to exit on a bounce - for example the systems only need SPY to close over the 8 or 9 SMA's to exit - that's not much.  And currently we are quite oversold, today the NYMO is likely to close below the lower BB for a second day.  Also the daily SPX and BPT MA Deluxe are now very close to the ATR but still above it

    The systems can also take shorts when price is over long term MA's, but they are rare - these are called Exhaustion shorts and a 60 Stochastic short reversal off 80%.  Here's a couple examples of those - actually the market was close to getting one, but we needed one up day to get the 60 Stochastic closer to 80%

    thank you Matt!

    Posted by ship on 6th of May 2015 at 02:40 pm

    thank you Matt!

    Thank You

    Posted by ship on 6th of May 2015 at 01:57 pm

    Thank You

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