Wanted to sell calls at the close but didn't get filled on my.   PM stocks about 5% below short term targets at their highs yesterday.  Anyway, pretty comfortable selling aggressively on the put side here for 2 days for 22c.  Typically won't want to be naked (at least in this account) overnight, so we'll see where we end up.  Ultrabullish 3 white soldiers patterns on this deep fakedown and breakup so buy dip aggressively.  Update: missed bottom by a penny, have to work on that.  Cleanest charts with targets very short term HL 3.25 (161 fib extn) ;  NG 3.86  (161 fib ext of this base)  FSM 5.45 (100 extn) ; RIOM (2.93 100 extn) .... probably work between their and yesterday's gap with higher first.  Good chance there's some real longer-term fund buying in GDX this year at these prices.  Very orderly buying in a lot of these names with no gaps.  A lot of these companies are profitable at $900 gold, or so they say, now, and cheap oil will help a lot.  Demand in the east is pretty solid, so I am still going to add beta at this point. 

     

     

    Well done HFW on GDX

    Posted by steve on 7th of Jan 2015 at 10:25 am

    Well done HFW on GDX

    Title: Weekly GDX bear call spread / also Updated top GDXJ picks list

    Hi HFW - glad to

    Posted by a_l_ on 7th of Jan 2015 at 11:23 am

    Hi HFW - glad to see more options commentary on the site now that our old friend Zach isn't trading with one hand & posting with the other.

    Question for you - TOS is a great platform, but commissions are typically 1.50 per contract (I hope you have a better deal than that). If you're selling spreads for .11, your max profit with 1.50 commission rate is already .08. And you have .39 risk per contract on a volatile instrument. So if it goes against you & you have to cover, your max profit is down to .05 per contract on a .50 spread. Isn't that picking up pennies in front of gamma/delta risk? 

    I use IB for actual trades, better prices

    Posted by hatefalseweight on 7th of Jan 2015 at 11:52 am

    I'll have to look over the math a bit for an exact answer.   IB is better than TOS.   GDX weeklies are pretty liquid, but you still get shafted to the tune of 3c or so on the spread if you want a quick fill.  I typically try to get 25-30c on weekly 1 point spreads, but the trade location in this example was good enough to give it a go, plus that will give me some cover on the short puts I want to let expire.

    I only used a 1/2 point spread in that trade, which I typically would not do, but in this case I don't like the upside risk.  I think we will range trade here for a week with upside bias.  The TOS account I'm showing are real trades in a DEMO account as I have time. 

    Using index options against a preferred set of stocks is the best way I've seen to do some intraday stuff without driving oneself crazy trying to get off 18 trades.  Also, IB has the family and friends which allows one to get off 1 trade across multiple accounts.

    Commission costs

    Posted by hazbin1 on 7th of Jan 2015 at 12:17 pm
    Title: via Fidelity

    Thanks, Haz - if you're

    Posted by a_l_ on 7th of Jan 2015 at 12:59 pm

    Thanks, Haz - if you're trading fewer than 10 contracts at a time, going through dough.com to set up a TOS account gets you 1.5/contract total - lower than Fidelity at <10 with no negotiation needed and a far better trading platform.

    Thanks. The amount collected on

    Posted by a_l_ on 7th of Jan 2015 at 12:06 pm

    Thanks. The amount collected on dollar-wides makes sense. I stay away from selling cheap options altogether, though. I don't think volatility in GDX is high enough relative to a $1.40 weekly 1 standard deviation to warrant the upside risk. If you're trying to improve cost basis on being long the etf, the puts are decent naked -- but that's only meant in terms of getting long the etf (assuming one wants a longer term long).

    Posted by hatefalseweight on 7th of Jan 2015 at 12:30 pm
    Title: My choices in these trades are also influenced by the context of long only IRAs

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