as promised

    Posted by morgan8 on 16th of Nov 2012 at 02:04 am
    Title: spx short

    Good narrative.  Please post more

    Posted by kalinm on 16th of Nov 2012 at 02:19 am

    Good narrative.  Please post more as you promised!  What if you consider the top to be the 1470 (where the INDU made a new high, but maybe a failed fifth on the SPX)?  Anyway, that would just "buy" you time -- I agree, downtrends can only go so far.  I sold my shorts at 1380 as I thought there might be a reaction at the 1386 or 1372 pivot -- there was, but I missed my second chance.  We are really in "no man's land" right now.  I wouldn't go long or short at this level.  One thought would be to lighten up on the short at this level to ensure profits.  If we bounce, you can re-short at better prices; if it continues to tank, you can scale out on the way down.  I wish I had "lightened up" at 1380 rather than exit.  Oh well, the next trade is coming up soon.  Either way, nice trade for you!

    cheers kalinm and thanks for your thoughts,,,

    Posted by morgan8 on 16th of Nov 2012 at 04:29 am

    especially the possible failed 5th i had completely forgotten.

    another thing i watch is a few gann time cycles, the sp500 loves doing 90 calender day cycles. not all the time but more often than most people would think. you count them off recent highs or lows and when they appear they can be perfect.

    long story short gann divided everything by 3 and by 8 so you divide 90 days by 3 and by 8 and start counting, 90 / 8 = 11.25 days, 22.5, 33.75,45 and so on. 90 /3 gives 30 and 60.

    so from a new top i just watch 11 days down, if you get a high or low day, then watch 22.5 days, if it hits again and then again on 30 chances are you are running a 90 cycle. as i said it happens more often than you think, i never really expect to hit every division but if you hit the big ones , like 30,45,and 60 you have a strong chance of a trend change around 90.  i never trade this alone but use it as another indicator.

    so the point here is i have been counting from the 1474 high and there has not been much to hang your hat on at this stage. but it may be worth counting from the 1470 high oct 5th as well given it may be the real top,,and that gives mon 19th as 45 days. these 90 cycles do not have to be 90 in one direction, they often split 60 one way and 30 the other, or 45 down and 45 up. so for me, given all the other oversold indicators, if monday showed a big volume panic down day,, and i am still in the trade i would exit.

     

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