The reason we use ratio charts is two fold. One is the obvious
which is to measure relative performance. The second is less
obvious. When we use gold as the denominator (XXX:$GOLD), we are
measuring performance not in dollars but in ounces of gold. The
reason to do this is to take the FED and money printing out of the
picture. If we assume gold is a form of money that cannot be
printed and preserves its purchasing power, then the ratio charts
give us a picture of the thing we measure in real terms (not just
nominal dollar terms).
So while SPX is 80% up since March 09 bottom in nominal dollar
terms, in real terms (translate as purchasing power terms), it is
just re-testing the same level, and that shows how bad the economy
really is.
Now as for these charts, the H&S patterns in copper and oil
are predicting much lower commodity prices, and if Dr. Copper is a
leading indicator of the economy, then god help us.
The DOW and SPX are just re-testing their major support
(actually a little undercutting them) which corresponds to March 09
lows. If they bounce from here, (and technically they should since
this is major support), SPX and DOW should go up, or gold should
really come down (which does not look very likely).
Then after that, they could either go back to re-test the broken
support of a couple of weeks ago (and if gold keeps going up, that
would probably mean new highs for SPX and DOW - the inflationary
scenario), or they would come down and break this support (which is
most probably the deflationary scenario).
In any case, the ratio charts, like everything else are
extremely oversold and should put in at least a short term
bounce.
The safe approach here for investing (since we are not sure of
which scenario) is 1/3 gold, 1/3 cash and 1/3 play money.
Good luck everyone.
P.s. incidentally, if you measure real estate in nominal terms,
we are in the 1999-2002 price range. But if you measure it in real
terms- in ounces of gold, not only we have gone below 1990 and 1980
lows, but we are equivalent of home prices of the 1930's (at least
on a per sqft pricing), and that argues that real estate may not be
such a bad investment - specially if you can get a fixed long term
mortgage to purchase it.
Posted by mamaduck on 30th of Jul 2011 at 11:12 pm
One more leg up (with a correction in gold) as a result of a
deal on the debt ceiling will give us a kiss-back of the broken
support on these charts.
As for the QE3, the way I see it is we get the downside first
before they come back with QE3. Conservative targets of these
charts take us down about 15-20%. and if gold stays at 1600, then
SPX will be back at 1080-1100 and DOW at 10,300-10,400, which will
give uncle Ben ample support from the politicians to get QE3
started.
Of course that will save the SPX and DOW in nominal terms and
send them back up, but will also send gold through the roof, which
will make these charts play out regardless of the numbers on the
SPX and DOW.
FYI, conservative targets for the DOW:Gold would be 6.5 and for
SPX:Gold 0.675. And a conservative trade is long GLD short SPY.
Posted by mamaduck on 30th of Jul 2011 at 10:32 pm
Suggest unless we turn around very soon, and very sharply, we
have started the next deflationary leg... Targets on SPX and DOW
will take us below March 09 (in real terms).
Posted by mamaduck on 20th of Jul 2011 at 12:08 am
This is a theoretical path of steady increase and steady
decrease to mathematically illustrate the distortions in growth and
decay in the double ETF's. This is NOT a real scenario.
Much of what you see has to do with the math. If there is steady
increase (day after day), then the 2X goes up at an accelerating
rate. If there is a steady decrease, then the 2X drop rate
decelerates.
If there are a lot of fluctuations, then the decay rate is more
pronounced.
This table shows a steady increase/decrease of 10% per day and
20% for the 2X. If you study the math, it becomes obvious.
Posted by mamaduck on 18th of Jun 2011 at 02:18 pm
Quite possible if European contagion gets worse... Flight to
safety, USD and Gold, and flow of funds into USD will raise
treasuries and US stock markets... or at least keep them steady and
relatively stable......
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Ratio Charts
Posted by mamaduck on 5th of Aug 2011 at 06:39 pm
The reason we use ratio charts is two fold. One is the obvious which is to measure relative performance. The second is less obvious. When we use gold as the denominator (XXX:$GOLD), we are measuring performance not in dollars but in ounces of gold. The reason to do this is to take the FED and money printing out of the picture. If we assume gold is a form of money that cannot be printed and preserves its purchasing power, then the ratio charts give us a picture of the thing we measure in real terms (not just nominal dollar terms).
So while SPX is 80% up since March 09 bottom in nominal dollar terms, in real terms (translate as purchasing power terms), it is just re-testing the same level, and that shows how bad the economy really is.
Now as for these charts, the H&S patterns in copper and oil are predicting much lower commodity prices, and if Dr. Copper is a leading indicator of the economy, then god help us.
The DOW and SPX are just re-testing their major support (actually a little undercutting them) which corresponds to March 09 lows. If they bounce from here, (and technically they should since this is major support), SPX and DOW should go up, or gold should really come down (which does not look very likely).
Then after that, they could either go back to re-test the broken support of a couple of weeks ago (and if gold keeps going up, that would probably mean new highs for SPX and DOW - the inflationary scenario), or they would come down and break this support (which is most probably the deflationary scenario).
In any case, the ratio charts, like everything else are extremely oversold and should put in at least a short term bounce.
The safe approach here for investing (since we are not sure of which scenario) is 1/3 gold, 1/3 cash and 1/3 play money.
Good luck everyone.
P.s. incidentally, if you measure real estate in nominal terms, we are in the 1999-2002 price range. But if you measure it in real terms- in ounces of gold, not only we have gone below 1990 and 1980 lows, but we are equivalent of home prices of the 1930's (at least on a per sqft pricing), and that argues that real estate may not be such a bad investment - specially if you can get a fixed long term mortgage to purchase it.
In real terms at March 2009 lows
Ratio Charts
Posted by mamaduck on 5th of Aug 2011 at 04:11 pm
To put it in perspective
See how streched the market is
Posted by mamaduck on 5th of Aug 2011 at 12:42 pm
Great chart flmaia, but we have plenty of room to go higher and deeper...
Ratio Charts
Posted by mamaduck on 4th of Aug 2011 at 04:58 pm
Dow at March 09 level - SPX close.
Targets are still lower, but a bounce may be in order.
Also check out my previous posts, this one and this one
Gold futures
Posted by mamaduck on 4th of Aug 2011 at 01:24 pm
Volume very high
MG, could it be...
hate to say it boyz and girls but i think from here (but probably a little higher) we are going to get another low.... :-(
Posted by mamaduck on 3rd of Aug 2011 at 06:25 pm
Ratio Charts - follow up.
Posted by mamaduck on 2nd of Aug 2011 at 04:41 pm
Agreed - although...
Ratio Charts
Posted by mamaduck on 30th of Jul 2011 at 11:12 pm
One more leg up (with a correction in gold) as a result of a deal on the debt ceiling will give us a kiss-back of the broken support on these charts.
As for the QE3, the way I see it is we get the downside first before they come back with QE3. Conservative targets of these charts take us down about 15-20%. and if gold stays at 1600, then SPX will be back at 1080-1100 and DOW at 10,300-10,400, which will give uncle Ben ample support from the politicians to get QE3 started.
Of course that will save the SPX and DOW in nominal terms and send them back up, but will also send gold through the roof, which will make these charts play out regardless of the numbers on the SPX and DOW.
FYI, conservative targets for the DOW:Gold would be 6.5 and for SPX:Gold 0.675. And a conservative trade is long GLD short SPY.
Ratio Charts
Posted by mamaduck on 30th of Jul 2011 at 10:32 pm
Suggest unless we turn around very soon, and very sharply, we have started the next deflationary leg... Targets on SPX and DOW will take us below March 09 (in real terms).
AEM
Posted by mamaduck on 29th of Jul 2011 at 03:38 pm
Matt, can you comment on AEM please? It had a sub-par earning report and has sold off sharply. Wondering if this is a good place to pick some up.
SPX:GOLD
Posted by mamaduck on 27th of Jul 2011 at 06:35 pm
PGH
Posted by mamaduck on 20th of Jul 2011 at 05:10 pm
Former Canadian oil Trust, pays 0.07 dividend per MONTH (6.5%)
You meant BKX up 1.6%. KBX
Posted by mamaduck on 20th of Jul 2011 at 12:52 pm
You meant BKX up 1.6%.
KBX is a junior miner and is up 2.5%
This is a theoretical path
SLV vs ZSL
Posted by mamaduck on 20th of Jul 2011 at 12:08 am
This is a theoretical path of steady increase and steady decrease to mathematically illustrate the distortions in growth and decay in the double ETF's. This is NOT a real scenario.
SLV vs. ZSL
SLV vs ZSL
Posted by mamaduck on 19th of Jul 2011 at 05:38 pm
Much of what you see has to do with the math. If there is steady increase (day after day), then the 2X goes up at an accelerating rate. If there is a steady decrease, then the 2X drop rate decelerates.
If there are a lot of fluctuations, then the decay rate is more pronounced.
This table shows a steady increase/decrease of 10% per day and 20% for the 2X. If you study the math, it becomes obvious.
An important chart to watch.
Posted by mamaduck on 18th of Jul 2011 at 04:22 pm
Gold:Silver ratio
Posted by mamaduck on 8th of Jul 2011 at 12:26 pm
Seems that precious metals need one more downside - matching Matt's GLDchart and silverprobably testing the 200 MA
SVM
SVM
Posted by mamaduck on 22nd of Jun 2011 at 02:35 pm
Bull flagging at 20 MA.
SVM
SLV
Posted by mamaduck on 20th of Jun 2011 at 12:56 pm
SVM announces 10M share buyback programover the next year. Fully diluted shares 168M.
Quite possible if European contagion
weekly chart of us$ & COT Commercials, etc.
Posted by mamaduck on 18th of Jun 2011 at 02:18 pm
Quite possible if European contagion gets worse... Flight to safety, USD and Gold, and flow of funds into USD will raise treasuries and US stock markets... or at least keep them steady and relatively stable......