Thanks for HSOL! I got in at 1.80 with a small position
but this more than pays for the membership. I was planning on
canceling since I just don't have time lately, but maybe I'll
rethink things.... :)
Thanks Tom for the kinds words, and thanks mamaduck for the
info. I had overlooked the part of the prospectus that
mentioned the 50:1 ratio for new purchases. That makes their
recent 9:1 purchase even more curious though considering it's the
first time in a decade they strayed from a 50:1 purchase
ratio. I would assume since that was during the parabolic top
they had a hard time getting enough silver. It will be
interesting to see how they maintain the ratio going forward
nonetheless. I spent way too much time looking at this today,
and decided to run it to ground by e-mailing the company as someone
suggested.
No, that's the point I was trying to make. They do not
have a 50/50 dollar split. They have a 50oz silver/1oz gold
split from 2001 up until 1Q11. In 2Q11 they made a 9:1 oz
purchase for the first time I can see bringing the ratio to about
45.44:1. Not sure why they suddenly changed the ratio, but I
can't find the ratio mandated anywhere. I just started
looking into this today, so perhaps you can explain that history to
me better or why the sudden shift in strategy?
The last page of most of these has a pie chart showing the ratio
is 50:1, others you have to do the math yourself to see the
ratio. Always 50:1 in the ones I spot checked up until 2Q11
at 45:1.
Actually, upon closer inspection of the quarterly reports, it
appears they maintained the 50:1 ratio from 2001 up until
1Q11. The 2Q11 report is the first one that strayed from the
50:1 ratio, it is now down to 45:1.
Yeah, I have not been able to find it specifically stated
anywhere, but the last page of their quarterly reports always shows
a 1oz gold/50oz silver ratio.
"Investment
Policies &
Restrictions
The investment policy set by the Board of Directors requires
Central Fund to
maintain a minimum of 90% of its net assets in gold and
silver bullion of which
at least 85% must be in physical form. On April 30, 2011,
98.8% of Central
Fund's net assets were held in gold and silver bullion. Of
this bullion, 99.6%
was in physical form and 0.4% was in certificate form.
Central Fund's physical gold and silver bullion holdings may
not be loaned,
subjected to options or otherwise encumbered in any way."
yeah, I haven't been able to find it specifically stated
anywhere on their website, but flipping through their quarterly
reports, the last page always shows the ratio at 1oz gold to 50oz
silver.
I also like that the miners finally managed a rally today
instead of tanking with the market. Maybe they'll shoot
straight up from here. Gold up = miners up, gold down +
market up = miners up. :)
Nice to see they go they expected direction so far instead of
tanking with the market. Now will gold stocks follow
higher? Probably since I got out last week.
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HSOL
Solar stocks all popped again
Posted by cufuzzy on 9th of Feb 2012 at 12:05 pm
Thanks for HSOL! I got in at 1.80 with a small position but this more than pays for the membership. I was planning on canceling since I just don't have time lately, but maybe I'll rethink things.... :)
So where's a good spot for a stop?
Thanks for the pun, (and
Posted by cufuzzy on 16th of Dec 2011 at 11:35 am
Thanks for the pun, (and the chart). Now work some goodnight moon into your next post. :)
gold stocks
Gold a buy now..
Posted by cufuzzy on 27th of Oct 2011 at 12:39 pm
Agreed, but it would be even nicer if the stocks would follow along. I added to my SSRI this morning but I guess it got tuckered out yesterday. :)
gold stocks
AEM to the WOODSHED!
Posted by cufuzzy on 19th of Oct 2011 at 09:54 am
Is AEM what's dragging the entire sector down today? Gold/Silver not off by much compared to gdx/gdxj.
gold stocks
Posted by cufuzzy on 30th of Sep 2011 at 11:04 am
Still green despite gold, silver, and market down. Time to buy or just a blip?
SVM
Hey Mamaduck
Posted by cufuzzy on 2nd of Sep 2011 at 11:12 am
mamaduck, do you happen to know what caused the >50% drop back in '07?
gold stocks
Gold
Posted by cufuzzy on 25th of Aug 2011 at 09:50 am
Thoughts on gold stocks? They are flat to up, so perhaps gold will find support here for a decent bounce as well?
PM's down, bonds down, why
silver
Posted by cufuzzy on 24th of Aug 2011 at 01:19 pm
PM's down, bonds down, why isn't the market up more? Gonna start it's run here?
CEF
CEF
Posted by cufuzzy on 17th of Aug 2011 at 05:16 pm
Thanks Tom for the kinds words, and thanks mamaduck for the info. I had overlooked the part of the prospectus that mentioned the 50:1 ratio for new purchases. That makes their recent 9:1 purchase even more curious though considering it's the first time in a decade they strayed from a 50:1 purchase ratio. I would assume since that was during the parabolic top they had a hard time getting enough silver. It will be interesting to see how they maintain the ratio going forward nonetheless. I spent way too much time looking at this today, and decided to run it to ground by e-mailing the company as someone suggested.
CEF
CEF
Posted by cufuzzy on 17th of Aug 2011 at 02:40 pm
No, that's the point I was trying to make. They do not have a 50/50 dollar split. They have a 50oz silver/1oz gold split from 2001 up until 1Q11. In 2Q11 they made a 9:1 oz purchase for the first time I can see bringing the ratio to about 45.44:1. Not sure why they suddenly changed the ratio, but I can't find the ratio mandated anywhere. I just started looking into this today, so perhaps you can explain that history to me better or why the sudden shift in strategy?
The last page of most of these has a pie chart showing the ratio is 50:1, others you have to do the math yourself to see the ratio. Always 50:1 in the ones I spot checked up until 2Q11 at 45:1.
http://www.centralfund.com/quarterlyreports/2011%20Quarterly%20Reports/CFOC%20-%201st%20Quarter%20Report%20FINAL%201%20MAR%20%2011.pdf
http://www.centralfund.com/Financials.htm
CEF
CEF
Posted by cufuzzy on 17th of Aug 2011 at 02:09 pm
Actually, upon closer inspection of the quarterly reports, it appears they maintained the 50:1 ratio from 2001 up until 1Q11. The 2Q11 report is the first one that strayed from the 50:1 ratio, it is now down to 45:1.
http://www.centralfund.com/quarterlyreports/2011%20Quarterly%20Reports/CFOC%20-%202nd%20Quarter%20Report%202%20June%2011.pdf
(Edit: to clarify that's the ratio of silver oz to gold oz.)
CEF
CEF
Posted by cufuzzy on 17th of Aug 2011 at 10:50 am
Yeah, I have not been able to find it specifically stated anywhere, but the last page of their quarterly reports always shows a 1oz gold/50oz silver ratio.
"Investment
Policies &
Restrictions
The investment policy set by the Board of Directors requires Central Fund to
maintain a minimum of 90% of its net assets in gold and silver bullion of which
at least 85% must be in physical form. On April 30, 2011, 98.8% of Central
Fund's net assets were held in gold and silver bullion. Of this bullion, 99.6%
was in physical form and 0.4% was in certificate form.
Central Fund's physical gold and silver bullion holdings may not be loaned,
subjected to options or otherwise encumbered in any way."
CEF
ESLR
Posted by cufuzzy on 17th of Aug 2011 at 10:48 am
yeah, I haven't been able to find it specifically stated anywhere on their website, but flipping through their quarterly reports, the last page always shows the ratio at 1oz gold to 50oz silver.
CEF NAV premium down lately too...
CEF
Posted by cufuzzy on 17th of Aug 2011 at 09:48 am
http://www.centralfund.com/Nav%20Form.htm
I also like that the
gold miners
Posted by cufuzzy on 10th of Aug 2011 at 05:52 pm
I also like that the miners finally managed a rally today instead of tanking with the market. Maybe they'll shoot straight up from here. Gold up = miners up, gold down + market up = miners up. :)
AUY
Posted by cufuzzy on 10th of Aug 2011 at 11:07 am
AUY breaking out to 52wk high.
I bought both DZZ and
Gold is getting a nice sell off the last hour here
Posted by cufuzzy on 9th of Aug 2011 at 04:02 pm
I bought both DZZ and GDX in the last hour, so hopefully that trend can continue tomorrow?
GDX/GDXJ
Gold miners GDX
Posted by cufuzzy on 8th of Aug 2011 at 12:10 pm
Hope you're right, I did some buying today. Nice to see the miners following gold instead of the general market.
Nice to see they go
gold and silver
Posted by cufuzzy on 7th of Aug 2011 at 11:39 pm
Nice to see they go they expected direction so far instead of tanking with the market. Now will gold stocks follow higher? Probably since I got out last week.
aem
what wrong with gold stocks and gdx
Posted by cufuzzy on 5th of Aug 2011 at 11:40 am
AEM is one of the only ones on my watchlist still green. I guess it's finally been beaten down enough, as it's been a laggard lately.