Many aspiring traders don't reach professional levels because
they overtrade. They feel the more they trade, the more chances
they will have to
make
money
They subscribe to multiple newsletters (most without
written, fully disclosed, track records) and they are at the same
time watching the business channels looking for hot ideas. How is
this any different than going to a racetrack and buying all the
tout selections and also asking strangers "who they like"?
They
tradefor the rush. The more trades they do the better they feel.
Behavioral psychologists refer to this as compulsive behavior and
it's a serious weakness in any profession or activity.
Posted by bullbull on 13th of Jul 2009 at 01:36 am
I'll just list the reasoning for bullish case:
(a). Oct/Nov VIX spike is hisotric spike in record, the March
low associated with lower VIX, it shows market volitilty abating.
Does anyone imagine another LEH failing give global financial
system a shoke? Very unlikely.
(b). This is not a "Great Depression"! The US economy was cut in
half during the 1929-1932, do you imagine this case happen again,
NO. Even the most bearish economist predict slow recovery in 2010.
Other than great depression, all the rest of the crash is %50. This
time is NOT different from other time. We've seen worst times.
(c). The P/E10 is ~12 in March low. However, there is enough
reasons that why it is not as long as 1930 and 1970~ bear market
low. For example, 1970 market has huge interest rate, and no
monteory policy being applied. So we can argue you won't see signal
digital P/E10 this time.
(d). don't underestimate government money printing and stimulus,
it buys time for economy recovery.
(e). this is global economy, even we have a sluggish 2009, the
world wide economy is back on its footing 2010.
Could we in a new bull market? maybe, but we also could be on a
choppy trending market, and you can expect normal return. It is
very unlikely we will hit a March low again. Just my opinion, based
on some fundamental reasoning.
People always try to be "contrarian", it is hard to be a "real
one". When you see most of people in blog is bearish.. you get to
be wondering: which side is actually the "true" contrarian.
I don't know how EW can forecast the future. Just try to unwind
the historic Dow and S&P chart to 1970 (if you use telechart),
and try to predict what will happen, you will find it is never easy
to predict what NEXT.
"I think you are maybe a trader in a mess and needing some help
and guidance. Best to keep arguments to a minimum and take a couple
weeks to learn from some of the best in the business.
Best of luck to you."
i'm not sure how you came up with this conclusion. I've
reviewed the posted video link from last year to this year, and I
have to see it is like chicken little running scared day by day, do
you loss your sleep some times. if you are a day-trader and have
time to stare at your monitor (maybe multiple monitors) tick by
tick, you can trade (scalp) the market this way, maybe you can
trade a relative small size portfolio to make some money.but I'm
not intended to spend my life in front of the monitor and hear my
own a heart beating.
I personally have more captial than I can trade day by day,
(>500K), I have to allocate certain amount to invest, which I
did in Feb/March, and they definitely beat the day-trading profit I
can have. I made about 10~20% one year even after I tried my
best.
lots of people claim they made a boat load of money in the
past bear market by following chart, could you elaborate your
portofolio size, and % gain? If it is (<50K), please ignore
that. how much you gain YTD? Please show me the NUMBER!
I'm really curious to see majority of people here can make money
this way, if it is true, why you are not the gain who can manange
50B $ like Jeremy Grantham?
Posted by bullbull on 12th of Jul 2009 at 10:31 pm
"I am certain that there will be a next leg down for many
reasons. One reason is that virtually every economist and
analyst who predicted this financial crisis in the first place,
predicts that it is no over".
first, it is wrong to use "certain" in predicting market, it
is naive.
second, you can't trust any economist on predicting the market,
the economy and market is not in sync. the economy can still be
bad, but a bull market can be born way early than economy
recover.
third, let me just show you some example on several great "bear"
who turns bullish
March 9th is a "generation" low, in Kass' s words, it is a darn
good entry point. Of course, nobody knew for sure. But trying to be
a fake "contrarian" and thinking the panic is not yet over is just
what majority people is doing, as shown by the cash level on the
side line.
anyway, I would like to quit the discussion. Just pay a little
attention to the fundamental, not just draw lines on the chart and
trying to predict the market going, it is not going to pay off in a
big way.
Posted by bullbull on 11th of Jul 2009 at 03:10 pm
guys,
Why everyone is so certain that there is a "next big leg
down"?
You can always draw on a chart with possibilities, but the "next
big leg down" is NOT guaranteed unless you have a crystal ball.
of course, If you are day trader, you probably don't care, since
you will be out of the market everyday, and it is random in term of
how the next day will go...
I'm a newbie on this website. But from the post on the log and
daily analysis (looking at 5-min, 10-min, 15-min chart
exclusively), this website is more or less a day-trader's
community, right?
I have some qutestions here in regard to the website and day
trading:
(1). Is there some biography info on the founder of the
website? Like who is Matt and who is Steve, what's their tracking
record, etc. You have to know who are you following if you want to
take risk in the market, right?
(2). How much capital to depoly to survive as a day-trader?
(3). I doubt everyone can trade a >200K account very easily,
how to handle the rest of the money? Investing?
(4). How many people can really make money in a day-trading
fashion. I saw some reasearch shows only 5% or less trader makes
money, the rest a most losing or not making much at all.
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3 Signs you are overtrading
Posted by bullbull on 14th of Jul 2009 at 01:36 am
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/stocks/commentary/editorial/3-Signs-You-Are-Overtrading-81676.cfm
Many aspiring traders don't reach professional levels because they overtrade. They feel the more they trade, the more chances they will have to make money
. This is incorrect.
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Here are the following three ways to diagnose whether or not you're overtrading. Here's what non-successful traders do and you want to make sure you're not one of them
They're looking for action. Meaning instead of following a high probability trading methodology, they're taking trades on hunches with no statistical edges.
They subscribe to multiple newsletters (most without written, fully disclosed, track records) and they are at the same time watching the business channels looking for hot ideas. How is this any different than going to a racetrack and buying all the tout selections and also asking strangers "who they like"?
They trade for the rush. The more trades they do the better they feel. Behavioral psychologists refer to this as compulsive behavior and it's a serious weakness in any profession or activity.
Why my post is deleted?
California vs Texas
Posted by bullbull on 13th of Jul 2009 at 12:14 pm
My reply to rgoodwin is delted, why? This is not free of speech forum?
http://www.fluctu8.com/media/24742/39506/
Here is what the chart telling you in the verge of the bear market... :)
Ok, my A, B, C on Bull market case
California vs Texas
Posted by bullbull on 13th of Jul 2009 at 01:36 am
I'll just list the reasoning for bullish case:
(a). Oct/Nov VIX spike is hisotric spike in record, the March low associated with lower VIX, it shows market volitilty abating. Does anyone imagine another LEH failing give global financial system a shoke? Very unlikely.
(b). This is not a "Great Depression"! The US economy was cut in half during the 1929-1932, do you imagine this case happen again, NO. Even the most bearish economist predict slow recovery in 2010. Other than great depression, all the rest of the crash is %50. This time is NOT different from other time. We've seen worst times.
(c). The P/E10 is ~12 in March low. However, there is enough reasons that why it is not as long as 1930 and 1970~ bear market low. For example, 1970 market has huge interest rate, and no monteory policy being applied. So we can argue you won't see signal digital P/E10 this time.
(d). don't underestimate government money printing and stimulus, it buys time for economy recovery.
(e). this is global economy, even we have a sluggish 2009, the world wide economy is back on its footing 2010.
Could we in a new bull market? maybe, but we also could be on a choppy trending market, and you can expect normal return. It is very unlikely we will hit a March low again. Just my opinion, based on some fundamental reasoning.
People always try to be "contrarian", it is hard to be a "real one". When you see most of people in blog is bearish.. you get to be wondering: which side is actually the "true" contrarian.
I don't know how EW can forecast the future. Just try to unwind the historic Dow and S&P chart to 1970 (if you use telechart), and try to predict what will happen, you will find it is never easy to predict what NEXT.
Title: reply "I think you are
California vs Texas
Posted by bullbull on 12th of Jul 2009 at 11:31 pm
"I think you are maybe a trader in a mess and needing some help and guidance. Best to keep arguments to a minimum and take a couple weeks to learn from some of the best in the business.
Best of luck to you."
i'm not sure how you came up with this conclusion. I've reviewed the posted video link from last year to this year, and I have to see it is like chicken little running scared day by day, do you loss your sleep some times. if you are a day-trader and have time to stare at your monitor (maybe multiple monitors) tick by tick, you can trade (scalp) the market this way, maybe you can trade a relative small size portfolio to make some money.but I'm not intended to spend my life in front of the monitor and hear my own a heart beating.
I personally have more captial than I can trade day by day, (>500K), I have to allocate certain amount to invest, which I did in Feb/March, and they definitely beat the day-trading profit I can have. I made about 10~20% one year even after I tried my best.
lots of people claim they made a boat load of money in the past bear market by following chart, could you elaborate your portofolio size, and % gain? If it is (<50K), please ignore that. how much you gain YTD? Please show me the NUMBER!
I'm really curious to see majority of people here can make money this way, if it is true, why you are not the gain who can manange 50B $ like Jeremy Grantham?
"I am certain that there
California vs Texas
Posted by bullbull on 12th of Jul 2009 at 10:31 pm
"I am certain that there will be a next leg down for many reasons. One reason is that virtually every economist and analyst who predicted this financial crisis in the first place, predicts that it is no over".
first, it is wrong to use "certain" in predicting market, it is naive.
second, you can't trust any economist on predicting the market, the economy and market is not in sync. the economy can still be bad, but a bull market can be born way early than economy recover.
third, let me just show you some example on several great "bear" who turns bullish
(1). doug kass calls the bottom
(2). one of the best in business : Jeremy Grantham calls re-invest when terrified:
(3). Barry Ritholtz calls rally
March 9th is a "generation" low, in Kass' s words, it is a darn good entry point. Of course, nobody knew for sure. But trying to be a fake "contrarian" and thinking the panic is not yet over is just what majority people is doing, as shown by the cash level on the side line.
anyway, I would like to quit the discussion. Just pay a little attention to the fundamental, not just draw lines on the chart and trying to predict the market going, it is not going to pay off in a big way.
Next Leg Down?!
California vs Texas
Posted by bullbull on 11th of Jul 2009 at 03:10 pm
guys,
Why everyone is so certain that there is a "next big leg down"?
You can always draw on a chart with possibilities, but the "next big leg down" is NOT guaranteed unless you have a crystal ball.
of course, If you are day trader, you probably don't care, since you will be out of the market everyday, and it is random in term of how the next day will go...
Dangers of Day Trading According to the SEC,
The familiar Nightmare
Posted by bullbull on 11th of Jul 2009 at 02:57 pm
Dangers of Day Trading
According to the SEC, day traders should know:
The familiar Nightmare
Posted by bullbull on 11th of Jul 2009 at 02:37 pm
The nightmare
Day Trading
Posted by bullbull on 6th of Jul 2009 at 06:30 pm
I'm a newbie on this website. But from the post on the log and daily analysis (looking at 5-min, 10-min, 15-min chart exclusively), this website is more or less a day-trader's community, right?
I have some qutestions here in regard to the website and day trading:
(1). Is there some biography info on the founder of the website? Like who is Matt and who is Steve, what's their tracking record, etc. You have to know who are you following if you want to take risk in the market, right?
(2). How much capital to depoly to survive as a day-trader?
(3). I doubt everyone can trade a >200K account very easily, how to handle the rest of the money? Investing?
(4). How many people can really make money in a day-trading fashion. I saw some reasearch shows only 5% or less trader makes money, the rest a most losing or not making much at all.