Hi Matt,

Thanks for the detailed response (and Steve's too).  The link for the private message did not work (but would be happy to talk anytime) so I will try and clarify my question:

- I did not enter any VIX trade, I just wanted to understand the signal. I do use the KISS systems and I take the SPY reversion trades regularly.

- It is my understanding that SPX/VIX usually move counter to each other. Hence, me saying "VIX system says up which should mean spy down". Steve commented in a different thread that that was wrong and the the signal is actually SPX up.  So my clarification question is actually two fold:

1. Was the alert (when it was sent) a LONG VIX alert?

2. Am I correct  that a LONG VIX means short SPX and vice versa?

Thanks guys and thank you for your great mechanical systems!

p.s. (unrelated) I still do not understand how you draw a demand zone. "Demand zones are formed by a break of structure and revert to back to the origin". I saw it appearing in several newsletters but I still do not get it.  i.e. I can figure the BOS (mostly) but I do not understand the revert to origin part.