fyi - i've been an ATP user since 2001. currently using ATP v 9.?  yesterday watched a seminar on beta version (seminar available on the website to watch at your leisure) which i mistakenly thought was just a test version. apparently it is mis-named. the beta version is a state-of-the-art platform that is constantly evolving (that's why the call it beta). the charting package is far better than the old. i played with it last nite and it works about as well as the free stockcharts without the ads. the windows 'float' if you want them. like any upgrade it will take time to get used to it. i ran both the 'old' atp and the beta versions simulaneously last nite. you can not move your charts from old to new, you have to re-create them (which is fine because the old atp had terrible charts). i tried using the .com version (i have 3 different computers that i thought i could use the platform from -home-work-laptop) but i thought the beta version was more powerful. not sure if i can save layouts and transfer them between systems (should be ok because the power of the beta version makes up for the extra work). while watchlists are saved via the web, layouts are still saved locally (hopefully that will evolve too). suggestion, go to website download current beta version (the one that was on my computer that came with atp last time was an older model that didn't update) good trading. Haz