ditch -- that's one reason -- of many -- to automate the systems -- you don't have to watch what they're doing and be emotionally involved in it. It just uses up a lot of personal energy for no good reason.

There's a quote from Ed Seykota -- "if you want to avoidf whipsaws, stop trading."

Meaning that if you are trading, there will always be whipsaws.  The challenge as I understand it for myself is not to avoid or eliminate whipsaws, which is impossible, but to learn to live with them as an inevitable part of trading.  Risk is not to be avoided because without risk there is no potential for profit.  Risk is to be managed.  And that's what the systems represent -- managed, quantifiable risk.

Well, that's my philosophical moment for today..............