high probability UPS cuts dividend at some pt to maintain historical payout ratio, which may lead to volatility. 

    on UPS the thing is,

    Posted by matt on 20th of Oct 2025 at 04:08 pm

    on UPS the thing is, it's so hated, everyone has reason why it's gonna go down, etc.  But the thing is, that's when bottoms tend to form when everyone hates it,  when all the  fundamental reasons out there tend to confirm

    recently INTC was like this earlier in the year, hated, it's gonna go out of business, it's gonna sell its assets etc now look at it

    UNH was like this earlier in the year too, TSLA early in the year as well

    So I don't know what it will be, but my guess is that in the future there will be some news item that justifies bottom -  I've seen it too many times over 20 and 30 years.  Again only reason I'm even thinking about it is because of the charts being at or near a big support zone.

    if it was some small cap stock, then yeah could easily go out of business, but UPS doesn't fit that category

    I thought the same thing

    Posted by oatdust on 20th of Oct 2025 at 07:21 pm

    I thought the same thing with Peabody Energy (BTU) under Obama.

    Were supposed to be best in coal space. Then they filed for bankruptcy. Management didn't have much ownership in the company and made out much better under the revised company.

    that is way I see

    Posted by srusso1 on 20th of Oct 2025 at 10:41 am

    that is way I see it but I did take a very small position . UPS

    CBP and UPS are like

    Posted by srusso1 on 20th of Oct 2025 at 11:00 am

    CBP and UPS are like Dogs of the Dow to me. Moving averages are spread pretty wide to the downside and yes they could go to 0 that is why I go small.

    doubt they go to zero,

    Posted by matt on 20th of Oct 2025 at 12:39 pm

    doubt they go to zero, not some micro crap pink sheet BB stocks

    Matt One of the order flow

    Posted by Sammy2008 on 21st of Oct 2025 at 06:24 am

    Matt

    One of the order flow guys I follow ( Tictoc) posted few months ago UPS could go to 70.fwiw

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