Posted by bdw2trade on 18th of Jan 2025 at 08:38 pm
Yep with most people having data plans or local Wifi certainly a
app notification service would be more cost effective.
Locally in NZ our cost is an eye watering 10c per sms but for
our company we only do 1200 to 1500 per month. Just looking
at twilo cost now, so at 0.0078 sms per 88k, yeah $695 per month,
ouch.
In the past I've looked at alternatives but not bothered to
go further since our clients pay for their usage at present.
I did look at ntfy.sh which is opensource with server self
hosting or paid service. Not sure if you can have private
topics through the paid or not but self hosting allows ACL type
user password.
For viewing they have website integrations but has an App
that can be used for both Android and Apple. I have to say
for your own app it could be created but I've found Apple is the
biggest pain in the room where you have to pay them for developing
per year (not huge cost there) but to compile requires Apple
hardware which is constantly needing software updates and being
Apple they get to 3-5 years old and decide no you can no longer
upgrade the hardware mate. You must buy some new hardware to
compile on now.
Just my experience in this though. I've not bothered
with the stores though, as just an Adhoc type app for limited
clients. Apple is super restrictive so looking to go more
webapp style. So ntfy's app looks to be that style option as
well which has a website backend as well I believe.
thanks for the info and giving your ideas and experiences. yes
we use Twillio for the SMS
Also, while most subscribers are US based, we have subs from
around the world. There's a few customers we've identified in weird
parts of the world that are costing us 20 and 30 a month to send
texts too- that's just not worth it economically for us. We haven't
written to those subs or did anything about that yet, but some of
it doesn't make sense with some places around the
world.
yeah we looked at a BPT years a go, was a pain in the ass,
but we'll look into it again, might be a bit easier, and
these days you can have chatGTP write a bunch of code. But
yeah AAPL is a PINT from what I remember
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KISS Systems insane number of text messages
Posted by matt on 18th of Jan 2025 at 06:40 pm
The number of SMS text messages going out to subscribers for the KISS systems is pretty insane
In December alone the website sent 88,000 text messages for the systems!!!!
thank about that, 88,000!
That costs us a lot of money. Would love to try and develop an Android and Iphone phone app for notifications instead
Yep with most people having
Posted by bdw2trade on 18th of Jan 2025 at 08:38 pm
Yep with most people having data plans or local Wifi certainly a app notification service would be more cost effective. Locally in NZ our cost is an eye watering 10c per sms but for our company we only do 1200 to 1500 per month. Just looking at twilo cost now, so at 0.0078 sms per 88k, yeah $695 per month, ouch.
In the past I've looked at alternatives but not bothered to go further since our clients pay for their usage at present. I did look at ntfy.sh which is opensource with server self hosting or paid service. Not sure if you can have private topics through the paid or not but self hosting allows ACL type user password.
For viewing they have website integrations but has an App that can be used for both Android and Apple. I have to say for your own app it could be created but I've found Apple is the biggest pain in the room where you have to pay them for developing per year (not huge cost there) but to compile requires Apple hardware which is constantly needing software updates and being Apple they get to 3-5 years old and decide no you can no longer upgrade the hardware mate. You must buy some new hardware to compile on now.
Just my experience in this though. I've not bothered with the stores though, as just an Adhoc type app for limited clients. Apple is super restrictive so looking to go more webapp style. So ntfy's app looks to be that style option as well which has a website backend as well I believe.
thanks for the info and
Posted by matt on 19th of Jan 2025 at 05:57 pm
thanks for the info and giving your ideas and experiences. yes we use Twillio for the SMS
Also, while most subscribers are US based, we have subs from around the world. There's a few customers we've identified in weird parts of the world that are costing us 20 and 30 a month to send texts too- that's just not worth it economically for us. We haven't written to those subs or did anything about that yet, but some of it doesn't make sense with some places around the world.
yeah we looked at a BPT years a go, was a pain in the ass, but we'll look into it again, might be a bit easier, and these days you can have chatGTP write a bunch of code. But yeah AAPL is a PINT from what I remember