Posted by sjohnson on 13th of Aug 2024 at 09:04 am
In the KISS systems what are the circumstances that cause the
STS to drop during a trade? Looking at the high performance
XBI 130 system it looks like it happened on the current trade -
opening STS of 90.05566 on July 8th lowered to 86.565 on July
11th. Thanks
Posted by James_Roe on 13th of Aug 2024 at 09:06 pm
We have a hand off that's based on a couple of indicators
including our proprietary trending MA, that widens the stops.
From our backrest results it often gives you a lot more alpha.
Basically a tight stop when the trade starts, and then a wider stop
after it starts moving to allow more upside while protecting
profits.
craigm - TSLA updated on the table - remember you can always
refresh that page. There is a delay I think of 10 min or so for
signals. I don't see a test message for TSLA, I'll monitor and see
if it shows up soon and of course James look at these messages when
he starts so he'll investigate as well
that said for stops - real time notifications shouldn't matter
or are not really needed because stops are communicated previously
and should already been in and doing its job. Basically you
are not waiting for the system to send an SMS to exit - your stop
should already have been in place from the previous notification
communicating the stop
yes - and you have the details beforehand - the stop is
communicated previously, so you should know where it is already,
regardless if you are setting the stop or using it as a mental one
- real time stops being hit notification isn't really required
because you should have the stop written down previous if you are
using mental ones or already set at broker as it was communicated
previously
The entries and new STS stops are important notifications, but
once the system is in a trade, you simply use the STS stops, I
don't think folks should rely on an SMS for a stop as they already
have the info or have it set in their broker from the previous
notification
Thanks Matt and Digi - good points (it was an options
trade BTW). A best practice (which I should have done) will be to
set an alarm off my charting service when not using hard STS stop.
Good learning exp.
Matt as far as high perf system SMS alerts, do we get SMS for
all trades or only the ones selected as favorites ? I am getting
alerts on UPRO SSO URA which i did not add ( although i just added
UPRO SSO to my favs just a few minutes ago)
we discussed - right now it's everything, until James gets the
favorites to work.
I see that the favorites work now where the favorite stars stay
selected, however I"m not sure if he has the alerts limited to only
the favorites yet or if you are still receiving all of them - but
if not he should get that working today
also guys - I'm not sure if you are also seeing non high
performance SMS? I get a mix of them, the pop up alarms on the
trading community when one of the trigger alarms on the newsletter
trade ideas gets hit, SMS also sends those - they are not high
performance, they are simply those blog pop up alerts - which again
are not system buy and sell signals, they are simply alarms
sjohnson- XBI looks likebug - should not have exited, it
should still be long from early July, some unkown bug, I'll let
James know later when he's around
Posted by skwan1940 on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:05 am
according to the table, it doesn't look like XBI has exited,
just the STS dropped from the initial STS which I thought was
because of expansion of volatility.
Also - I see a new STS on UPRO 30 min, you can see it on the
table, but I don't see a text message for it yet, I'll relay that
too.
the tables update in nearly real time, so you can always refresh
that page to check on something new for now, but I'll let James
know about the UPRO SMS
I starred all the High Performance as favorites, but when I
refresh the page, they become un-starred again. However I
just received a MSTR new trailing stop message and the UPRO Long
message. Also on UPRO, the system entry date indicates Aug 6
instead of today.
LOL never mind -I got the SMS alert for UPRO 30 min system for
the new STS this morning LOL that worked - the XBI is the only bug
I see, it's still open on my system chart, I don't know what bug
caused it to say it exited yesterday. again we'll get that fixed
right away
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In the KISS systems what
Posted by sjohnson on 13th of Aug 2024 at 09:04 am
In the KISS systems what are the circumstances that cause the STS to drop during a trade? Looking at the high performance XBI 130 system it looks like it happened on the current trade - opening STS of 90.05566 on July 8th lowered to 86.565 on July 11th. Thanks
We have a hand off
Posted by James_Roe on 13th of Aug 2024 at 09:06 pm
We have a hand off that's based on a couple of indicators including our proprietary trending MA, that widens the stops.
From our backrest results it often gives you a lot more alpha. Basically a tight stop when the trade starts, and then a wider stop after it starts moving to allow more upside while protecting profits.
Hi James, The sort by Favorites
Posted by craigm on 13th of Aug 2024 at 09:50 pm
Hi James,
The sort by Favorites on the HP table is not working. Thanks
I'll get it sorted, thanks
Posted by James_Roe on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:14 pm
I'll get it sorted, thanks for flagging it.
Hi James, looks like TSLA
Posted by craigm on 14th of Aug 2024 at 11:22 am
Hi James, looks like TSLA 78M went flat. I had it as a favorite but did not receive the SMS. Did receive SMS for URA and SSO however.
craigm - TSLA updated on
Posted by matt on 14th of Aug 2024 at 11:41 am
craigm - TSLA updated on the table - remember you can always refresh that page. There is a delay I think of 10 min or so for signals. I don't see a test message for TSLA, I'll monitor and see if it shows up soon and of course James look at these messages when he starts so he'll investigate as well
https://breakpointtrades.com/sts_premium/?search=tsla%2078
that said for stops - real time notifications shouldn't matter or are not really needed because stops are communicated previously and should already been in and doing its job. Basically you are not waiting for the system to send an SMS to exit - your stop should already have been in place from the previous notification communicating the stop
Not everyone uses hard stops...especially
Posted by DigiNomad on 14th of Aug 2024 at 11:43 am
Not everyone uses hard stops...especially options traders. Mental stops are pretty common. Good to know these details.
yes - and you have
Posted by matt on 14th of Aug 2024 at 11:48 am
yes - and you have the details beforehand - the stop is communicated previously, so you should know where it is already, regardless if you are setting the stop or using it as a mental one - real time stops being hit notification isn't really required because you should have the stop written down previous if you are using mental ones or already set at broker as it was communicated previously
The entries and new STS stops are important notifications, but once the system is in a trade, you simply use the STS stops, I don't think folks should rely on an SMS for a stop as they already have the info or have it set in their broker from the previous notification
Thanks Matt and Digi -
Posted by craigm on 14th of Aug 2024 at 12:07 pm
Thanks Matt and Digi - good points (it was an options trade BTW). A best practice (which I should have done) will be to set an alarm off my charting service when not using hard STS stop. Good learning exp.
Matt as far as high
Posted by arun on 14th of Aug 2024 at 12:01 pm
Matt as far as high perf system SMS alerts, do we get SMS for all trades or only the ones selected as favorites ? I am getting alerts on UPRO SSO URA which i did not add ( although i just added UPRO SSO to my favs just a few minutes ago)
we discussed - right now
Posted by matt on 14th of Aug 2024 at 12:06 pm
we discussed - right now it's everything, until James gets the favorites to work.
I see that the favorites work now where the favorite stars stay selected, however I"m not sure if he has the alerts limited to only the favorites yet or if you are still receiving all of them - but if not he should get that working today
also guys - I'm not sure if you are also seeing non high performance SMS? I get a mix of them, the pop up alarms on the trading community when one of the trigger alarms on the newsletter trade ideas gets hit, SMS also sends those - they are not high performance, they are simply those blog pop up alerts - which again are not system buy and sell signals, they are simply alarms
I don't receive this. Is
Posted by patellee on 14th of Aug 2024 at 12:24 pm
I don't receive this. Is this another setting I need to toggle? I believe you are referring to the Trade Ideas section here.
Looks like it's working for
Posted by James_Roe on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:45 pm
Looks like it's working for me after I reload the page, but I'll get it working so you don't need to reload.
Yeah, I got same txt
Posted by tsurplus on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:30 am
Yeah, I got same txt msg that says UPRO 30 Min goes long this morning but when I check it’s a new STS
it looks like one of
Posted by skwan1940 on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:35 am
it looks like one of those that exited but then went back long immediately after; Matt can confirm
sjohnson- XBI looks likebug -
Posted by matt on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:00 am
sjohnson- XBI looks likebug - should not have exited, it should still be long from early July, some unkown bug, I'll let James know later when he's around
according to the table, it
Posted by skwan1940 on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:05 am
according to the table, it doesn't look like XBI has exited, just the STS dropped from the initial STS which I thought was because of expansion of volatility.
Also - I see a
Posted by matt on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:04 am
Also - I see a new STS on UPRO 30 min, you can see it on the table, but I don't see a text message for it yet, I'll relay that too.
the tables update in nearly real time, so you can always refresh that page to check on something new for now, but I'll let James know about the UPRO SMS
https://breakpointtrades.com/sts_premium/?search=upro
Matt, I starred all the High
Posted by craigm on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:15 am
Matt,
I starred all the High Performance as favorites, but when I refresh the page, they become un-starred again. However I just received a MSTR new trailing stop message and the UPRO Long message. Also on UPRO, the system entry date indicates Aug 6 instead of today.
If you click on the
Posted by crossharry on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:17 am
If you click on the chart of UPRO 30, it looks like the trade did go long on Aug 6. So which date is correct?
it went long on Aug
Posted by skwan1940 on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:22 am
it went long on Aug 6 but there's a new STS level today
Ah right, however the text
Posted by crossharry on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:23 am
Ah right, however the text alert suggests a new long for UPRO rather than a new STS level.
LOL never mind -I got
Posted by matt on 13th of Aug 2024 at 10:08 am
LOL never mind -I got the SMS alert for UPRO 30 min system for the new STS this morning LOL that worked - the XBI is the only bug I see, it's still open on my system chart, I don't know what bug caused it to say it exited yesterday. again we'll get that fixed right away