Posted by dragonfly28 on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:32 am
Nordstream gas line - seems that "someone" blew up the gas line
supplying energy to Europe and Germany. That will spell
collapse to the european economy. Not good for US
exports or imports. Photos on
Zerohedge.com What idiots we
have for politicians.
Imagine you are living your life in Russia when the government
abruptly calls you into military service last Friday for a war,
sorry, "special military operation" that they have spent very
little effort explaining to the population and now you're being
sent to the front with no training and no other equipment except a
uniform and armor. This is the definition of a clusterf*#k
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:51 am
No argument on the conclusion, but not sure about the doom and
gloom for the US. Even Biden being forced little by little to allow
us to return to the Orange Man days of energy
independence...including massive exports of energy. That's a net
gain in the medium to long term if we are the new supplier of
choice for the EU. Either way sucks for them, but I don't know how
much is sucks for Americans. Just riffing though. I'm not an expert
on this topic.
Posted by retirefire on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:59 am
National GRID pre warned Massachusetts utility bills up over
60pct. CNY (me) 40pct. Wisconsin 40pct. IF Biden exports
natty to Europe expect even higher..... as planned
Posted by dragonfly28 on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:04 am
If the NEOCONS want war with Russia, this is another step -
after the 2014 Ukraine Coup, and billions upon billions of
military aid. Quite simply, they do not want peace in
europe. The ripple effect of high energy costs is much more
than the simplistic "climate change" mantra.
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:10 am
I'm middle of the road but have been struck by the unending war
mongering from the left when it comes to Ukraine. The establishment
right are also mongering along with the left, but the more
libertarian side of the right (Tucker, Trump ish people, etc) have
a lot of questions about why we're involved in this at all. Not
sure where "NEOCONS" fall. Establishment right?
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:01 am
Biden won't allow full production capability and transportation.
So yeah, energy prices here are going to go up further because of
exporting a resource that doesn't have to be this
limited.
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:55 am
Clearly energy policy would never have gotten so out of whack
(again) in America if the resources and potential future profits
accrued primarily to blue states vs red states. The last thing a
blue president wants to do is empower the other tribe with a US
energy boom.
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Nordstream gas line - seems
Posted by dragonfly28 on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:32 am
Nordstream gas line - seems that "someone" blew up the gas line supplying energy to Europe and Germany. That will spell collapse to the european economy. Not good for US exports or imports. Photos on Zerohedge.com What idiots we have for politicians.
You want to see something
Posted by timebandit on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:01 am
You want to see something that is not good, watch this video:
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1574476679539527680/video/1
Imagine you are living your life in Russia when the government abruptly calls you into military service last Friday for a war, sorry, "special military operation" that they have spent very little effort explaining to the population and now you're being sent to the front with no training and no other equipment except a uniform and armor. This is the definition of a clusterf*#k
"Use tampons to close bullet
Posted by brophy on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:07 am
"Use tampons to close bullet wounds, ask your girlfriends for them." Pretty unbelievable
No argument on the conclusion,
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:51 am
No argument on the conclusion, but not sure about the doom and gloom for the US. Even Biden being forced little by little to allow us to return to the Orange Man days of energy independence...including massive exports of energy. That's a net gain in the medium to long term if we are the new supplier of choice for the EU. Either way sucks for them, but I don't know how much is sucks for Americans. Just riffing though. I'm not an expert on this topic.
National GRID pre warned Massachusetts
Posted by retirefire on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:59 am
National GRID pre warned Massachusetts utility bills up over 60pct. CNY (me) 40pct. Wisconsin 40pct. IF Biden exports natty to Europe expect even higher..... as planned
If the NEOCONS want war
Posted by dragonfly28 on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:04 am
If the NEOCONS want war with Russia, this is another step - after the 2014 Ukraine Coup, and billions upon billions of military aid. Quite simply, they do not want peace in europe. The ripple effect of high energy costs is much more than the simplistic "climate change" mantra.
I'm middle of the road
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:10 am
I'm middle of the road but have been struck by the unending war mongering from the left when it comes to Ukraine. The establishment right are also mongering along with the left, but the more libertarian side of the right (Tucker, Trump ish people, etc) have a lot of questions about why we're involved in this at all. Not sure where "NEOCONS" fall. Establishment right?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/25/sunday-talks-national-security-advisor-jake-sullivan-states-the-u-s-will-never-relinquish-control-of-ukraine-as-a-proxy-state/
Posted by retirefire on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:11 am
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/25/sunday-talks-national-security-advisor-jake-sullivan-states-the-u-s-will-never-relinquish-control-of-ukraine-as-a-proxy-state/
theconservativetreehouse.com
Sunday Talks, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan States the U.S. Will Never Relinquish Control of Ukraine as a Proxy State - The Last Refuge
Congress is mulling this week
Posted by retirefire on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:06 am
Congress is mulling this week another 14 billion to Ukraine.
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Biden won't allow full production
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 11:01 am
Biden won't allow full production capability and transportation. So yeah, energy prices here are going to go up further because of exporting a resource that doesn't have to be this limited.
Clearly energy policy would never
Posted by DigiNomad on 27th of Sep 2022 at 10:55 am
Clearly energy policy would never have gotten so out of whack (again) in America if the resources and potential future profits accrued primarily to blue states vs red states. The last thing a blue president wants to do is empower the other tribe with a US energy boom.