honestly with how thin the futures market is these days -
wouldn't take much when I see only 30 or 40 ES contracts on the bid
/ask - that's nothing. And especially overnight when it might be 10
- wouldn't make much to spike futures if PPT came in and bought
1000 ES contracts super early morning a few hrs before the cash
markets open
Posted by DigiNomad on 16th of Jun 2022 at 03:51 pm
Steve, as you suggested a month or two back, I think a couple of
circuit breaker down days would be needed before the PPT steps in
(you suggested the circuit breaker days previously, I'm just
conflating that commentary with the PPT commentary)
Real fear and a spike in VIX to the correction high sets
in at the early part of the downturn and then levels off before a
market bottom is made. This makes sense, since VIX measures
the expected volatility over the next 30 days. The rule of 16 says
that VIX/16 is the expected average daily volatility implied from
the value (with one standard deviation). VIX = 32 implies a market
pricing in daily swings of 2% over the next 30 days (or 21 trading
days). That is unusually high. We have had a few days exceeding
that by far, but on average, 2% daily is still VERY high. Of course
anything is possible in this market...
It's extremely high for sure and I will point out that this year
the days that follow the VIX expiration (Wednesday) have been
especially brutal - much has been purged during this unwind
- apathy has certainly set in for many. All part of the
process. Bigger picture though - this may just be the first
leg of a multi year unwind since the bubble was formed over a
decade plus. I'm certainly in the camp that we are closer now
to a sustained rally - started making a list of some names
and taking it level to level. Thanks for the
summary.
This correction started over a year ago with many smaller names
(soldiers) and more recently has shot the Generals.
Posted by anjali25 on 16th of Jun 2022 at 10:58 pm
Steve - would be great to see some projections for next couple
of months in terms of what you see as bounce tgt ge as well as
which names you are looking at ,,,, maybe you have shared before
but I am a newer sub
I'm a trader not a forecaster...traders put real capital at risk
while forecasters do not but like to talk on TV. What's most
important is for you to develop a methodology that works for you.
You can incorporate our analysis into the plan. Please read sticky
shaded yellow post above for additional input.
For tomorrow, my key levels are 3650 support and 3720
resistance. Above or below can lead to decent moves in those
directions.
We were targeting 3500/3600 area on this decline a few months
back and until a bottom is confirmed it's hard to project any
retracement targets. See your private inbox as well.
Bring back the PPT
When last did we have a Fed induced rally in ...
Posted by steve on 16th of Jun 2022 at 03:27 pm
Bring back the PPT
honestly with how thin the
Posted by matt on 16th of Jun 2022 at 03:29 pm
honestly with how thin the futures market is these days - wouldn't take much when I see only 30 or 40 ES contracts on the bid /ask - that's nothing. And especially overnight when it might be 10 - wouldn't make much to spike futures if PPT came in and bought 1000 ES contracts super early morning a few hrs before the cash markets open
Steve, as you suggested a
Posted by DigiNomad on 16th of Jun 2022 at 03:51 pm
Steve, as you suggested a month or two back, I think a couple of circuit breaker down days would be needed before the PPT steps in (you suggested the circuit breaker days previously, I'm just conflating that commentary with the PPT commentary)
Yep - some capitulation unfolding
Posted by steve on 16th of Jun 2022 at 04:19 pm
Yep - some capitulation unfolding but the darn VIX remains stubborn - prefer to see that dry heave. Level to level with an open mind
Real fear and a spike
Posted by victorh on 16th of Jun 2022 at 04:54 pm
Real fear and a spike in VIX to the correction high sets in at the early part of the downturn and then levels off before a market bottom is made. This makes sense, since VIX measures the expected volatility over the next 30 days. The rule of 16 says that VIX/16 is the expected average daily volatility implied from the value (with one standard deviation). VIX = 32 implies a market pricing in daily swings of 2% over the next 30 days (or 21 trading days). That is unusually high. We have had a few days exceeding that by far, but on average, 2% daily is still VERY high. Of course anything is possible in this market...
It's extremely high for sure
Posted by steve on 16th of Jun 2022 at 05:16 pm
It's extremely high for sure and I will point out that this year the days that follow the VIX expiration (Wednesday) have been especially brutal - much has been purged during this unwind - apathy has certainly set in for many. All part of the process. Bigger picture though - this may just be the first leg of a multi year unwind since the bubble was formed over a decade plus. I'm certainly in the camp that we are closer now to a sustained rally - started making a list of some names and taking it level to level. Thanks for the summary.
This correction started over a year ago with many smaller names (soldiers) and more recently has shot the Generals.
Steve - would be great
Posted by anjali25 on 16th of Jun 2022 at 10:58 pm
Steve - would be great to see some projections for next couple of months in terms of what you see as bounce tgt ge as well as which names you are looking at ,,,, maybe you have shared before but I am a newer sub
I'm a trader not a
Posted by steve on 16th of Jun 2022 at 11:20 pm
I'm a trader not a forecaster...traders put real capital at risk while forecasters do not but like to talk on TV. What's most important is for you to develop a methodology that works for you. You can incorporate our analysis into the plan. Please read sticky shaded yellow post above for additional input.
For tomorrow, my key levels are 3650 support and 3720 resistance. Above or below can lead to decent moves in those directions.
We were targeting 3500/3600 area on this decline a few months back and until a bottom is confirmed it's hard to project any retracement targets. See your private inbox as well.
Hi Steve - did not
Posted by anjali25 on 17th of Jun 2022 at 10:30 am
Hi Steve - did not see anything in my email
Check you inbox here on
Posted by steve on 17th of Jun 2022 at 10:32 am
Check you inbox here on the site - click on the inbox above (as a new member you should take time to review the site tutorial prior to anything else)
Wise words. The levels are
Posted by timebandit on 17th of Jun 2022 at 07:42 am
Wise words. The levels are really helpful, thanks.
Also helpful are the SPY systems: genius.