apparently IB had a trade issue this morning. I'm not sure
what it affected yet, I'm still on hold with them. Stocks seemed to
work fine however I had 11 Dec SPX call options coming into today
and was trying to sell some all morning and the orders would not go
through, they would just sit there. I even tried a market order
which I never do with options because of the spread and even it
wouldn't execute. Then it started giving me errors like invalid
order.
anyway I've been on hold with IB for 20 min and the orders
finally work now, so I guess whatever issue they had is resolved,
however I'm still holding so I can ask them what it was.
I posted in case any of you use IB and trade options and were
having the same issue. anyway appears resolved now
on a side note if you have the money, it's best to trade SPX
options over SPY options because of the 60/40 tax rule benefit
which is the same as you get for trading futures i.e. 60% of your
gains are taxed at the long term capital gains tax about 20%, vs
short term capital gains which can be mid to high 30's, that's a
huge difference.
the caveat is that SPX options cost about 10X more than the
equivalent SPY call/put option, therefore you have to have a large
enough account to do it.
for example on the SPY system the call options we've done have
been priced between $20 - $40, or $2000 to $4000 each. The
same SPX equivlaent call options would have cost $20,000 to $40,000
each. and if you are buying 2 contracts for 2nd entries that
can be $50 - 80K for two options and of course you have to have
capital for systems that overlap on trades. For the SPY
system you would probably need $200K to trade the SPX options
whereas with SPY you could do it with a $20K account. anyway
just an FYI. However if you have the capital SPX options are
superior because of the tax benefits. The rich trade ES and SPX
options, NOT SPY options
Interactive Brokers issue
Posted by matt on 28th of Oct 2019 at 10:22 am
apparently IB had a trade issue this morning. I'm not sure what it affected yet, I'm still on hold with them. Stocks seemed to work fine however I had 11 Dec SPX call options coming into today and was trying to sell some all morning and the orders would not go through, they would just sit there. I even tried a market order which I never do with options because of the spread and even it wouldn't execute. Then it started giving me errors like invalid order.
anyway I've been on hold with IB for 20 min and the orders finally work now, so I guess whatever issue they had is resolved, however I'm still holding so I can ask them what it was.
I posted in case any of you use IB and trade options and were having the same issue. anyway appears resolved now
on a side note if
Posted by matt on 28th of Oct 2019 at 10:29 am
on a side note if you have the money, it's best to trade SPX options over SPY options because of the 60/40 tax rule benefit which is the same as you get for trading futures i.e. 60% of your gains are taxed at the long term capital gains tax about 20%, vs short term capital gains which can be mid to high 30's, that's a huge difference.
the caveat is that SPX options cost about 10X more than the equivalent SPY call/put option, therefore you have to have a large enough account to do it.
for example on the SPY system the call options we've done have been priced between $20 - $40, or $2000 to $4000 each. The same SPX equivlaent call options would have cost $20,000 to $40,000 each. and if you are buying 2 contracts for 2nd entries that can be $50 - 80K for two options and of course you have to have capital for systems that overlap on trades. For the SPY system you would probably need $200K to trade the SPX options whereas with SPY you could do it with a $20K account. anyway just an FYI. However if you have the capital SPX options are superior because of the tax benefits. The rich trade ES and SPX options, NOT SPY options
Any related thoughts on the
Posted by jtsurfah on 28th of Oct 2019 at 12:11 pm
Any related thoughts on the micro version of the ES? (/MES)
I'm NOT in the House
Posted by retirefire on 28th of Oct 2019 at 10:38 am
I'm NOT in the House of Lords... lol common folk