Posted by cape_rover on 7th of Feb 2018 at 05:20 am
Does anyone know if XIV will continue to trade contacts right up
to the close? Or is Credit Suisse done trading contracts and what
ever the ETN's contracts were worth yesterday is what XIV will
close at later this month? From what I have read they will
continue to trade contracts per the prospectus.
If CS continues to trade contracts, and the VIX goes down, and
people capitulate, could the ETN's contracts be worth more on the
closing day than what XIV is trading at - thus when funds are
dispersed, you may get more funds than what the underlying XIV
shares were worth? In other words, if the XIV is way
oversold, could the ETN's contracts/share be worth more than the
closing price of XIV?
Below is from the prospectus- it addresses a trading premium but
what if XIV closes at a trading discount - the funds you receive
would be greater than the value of the XIV shares - correct?
Any
limitation or suspension on the issuance of the ETNs may
materially and adversely affect the price and liquidity of the ETNs
in the
secondary market. Alternatively, the decrease in supply may
cause an imbalance in the market supply and demand, which may cause
the
ETNs to trade at a premium over the indicative value of the
ETNs. Any premium may be reduced or eliminated at any time. Paying
a
premium purchase price over the indicative value of the
ETNs could lead to significant losses in the event the investor
sells such ETNs at a
time when such premium is no longer present in the market
place or such ETNs are accelerated (including at our option, which
we have the
discretion to do at any time), in which case investors will
receive a cash payment in an amount equal to the Closing Indicative
Value on the
Accelerated Valuation Date (each as defined herein).
Investors should consult their financial advisors before purchasing
or selling the ETNs,
especially for ETNs trading at a premium over their
indicative value.
Posted by cape_rover on 7th of Feb 2018 at 09:51 am
Today, Fidelity will not let me open a position on XIV or SVKY
(I was able to buy a little SVKY yesterday). People trying to
sell might have a difficult time selling (no demand) making the
price of XIV disjointed from the underlying contract value in the
ETN. When ETN closes there seems to be a possibility the
distribution you receive could be much higher than the value of
XIV. Anyone have a thought on this or experience with this
type of situation?
Does anyone know if XIV
Posted by cape_rover on 7th of Feb 2018 at 05:20 am
Does anyone know if XIV will continue to trade contacts right up to the close? Or is Credit Suisse done trading contracts and what ever the ETN's contracts were worth yesterday is what XIV will close at later this month? From what I have read they will continue to trade contracts per the prospectus.
If CS continues to trade contracts, and the VIX goes down, and people capitulate, could the ETN's contracts be worth more on the closing day than what XIV is trading at - thus when funds are dispersed, you may get more funds than what the underlying XIV shares were worth? In other words, if the XIV is way oversold, could the ETN's contracts/share be worth more than the closing price of XIV?
Below is from the prospectus- it addresses a trading premium but what if XIV closes at a trading discount - the funds you receive would be greater than the value of the XIV shares - correct?
Any
limitation or suspension on the issuance of the ETNs may materially and adversely affect the price and liquidity of the ETNs in the
secondary market. Alternatively, the decrease in supply may cause an imbalance in the market supply and demand, which may cause the
ETNs to trade at a premium over the indicative value of the ETNs. Any premium may be reduced or eliminated at any time. Paying a
premium purchase price over the indicative value of the ETNs could lead to significant losses in the event the investor sells such ETNs at a
time when such premium is no longer present in the market place or such ETNs are accelerated (including at our option, which we have the
discretion to do at any time), in which case investors will receive a cash payment in an amount equal to the Closing Indicative Value on the
Accelerated Valuation Date (each as defined herein). Investors should consult their financial advisors before purchasing or selling the ETNs,
especially for ETNs trading at a premium over their indicative value.
Today, Fidelity will not let
Posted by cape_rover on 7th of Feb 2018 at 09:51 am
Today, Fidelity will not let me open a position on XIV or SVKY (I was able to buy a little SVKY yesterday). People trying to sell might have a difficult time selling (no demand) making the price of XIV disjointed from the underlying contract value in the ETN. When ETN closes there seems to be a possibility the distribution you receive could be much higher than the value of XIV. Anyone have a thought on this or experience with this type of situation?
cape_rover - anything is possible
Posted by steve on 7th of Feb 2018 at 09:59 am
cape_rover - anything is possible but I have absolutely no educated guess.