thanks guys - obviously the frustrating thing about system is that you are always like DAMN, wish I had this in effect 3 months ago, but it's always a process, chicken and the egg kind of thing.  At least we'll have it in place now going forward and the breakout system will catch low volatility times and with exceedingly tight stops.  Which I will also look to ultimately break the trailing stops to the other sub systems as well.  It's all a process and develops over time, thx for all the patience!