They produced a loss for the first time in their device
(handset) division, due to higher DRAM + storage prices, which are
an input for that segment, and declining sales. But the
memory division produced a greater profit than any other tech
company.
And here is a key statement from what they said:
"Considering the long lead time of more than three and a half
years from building a new fab to producing wafers, expanding supply
through capacity additions will inevitably take a
considerable amount of time," Samsung Electronics said. "It
will be difficult to expect a significant increase in supply
until 2028." The company added, "The supply shortage is
expected to intensify next year compared to this year and continue
into 2028."
People write about the size of margin debt in absolute terms,
and some compare it to GDP, but the correct denominator IMO is
market cap. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
compared to market cap it is not that crazy. Even when one
adds in the debt of leveraged ETFs, which are actually not that
large compared with the overall equity market, it's high but not
off the charts.
As regards a CAPE of 40+, which is indeed very expensive, I have
been concerned about that for a while, to my detriment. But
there is no hard limit at the previous high of 44. Remember
Japan went to a CAPE of 100. They had a simultaneous property
+ equity bubble, and I would not wish that on anyone. And
that is why it took decades to work off, instead of only one
decade, like the dot com bubble took the US to digest.
LOL that is not even a stretch, the consensus 2027E is ~$99,
putting MU on a PE of what, 6.5x.
OTOH, Hynix over in Korea, the leader in HBM, is at ~4x 2027E.
They are considering doing a US ADR. If so, it will of
course be marketed against MU, and some money will move over to
Hynix.
It is a boom-bust industry, and one needs to keep an eye on
capex. Most of the capex in the industry this year is on
technology upgrades, resulting in modest output growth.
Recent step-ups in capex will boost wafer output, likely to
hit late in 2027 or in 1H2028. Usually the new capacity hits
as demand is cooling down, giving you the torpedo.
However, it is trying to be a bit too exact, claiming a duration
of 15 years every time. For example, the cycle which ended
(actually in 2011) didn't start in 1993 in my opinion. The
Asian Financial Crisis bottomed in 1997, and then the Russian
default was in 1998, those were deeper bottoms than 1993. The
real upside driver of that cycle was the reconstruction of China,
and that kicked off in earnest when China was allowed to join the
WTO, which was after 2000. That upcycle was interrupted by
the US financial crisis, which some Americans prefer to label as
the Global Financial Crisis. However, China actually stepped
on the gas pedal very hard at that time, and so there was a final
rebound to 2011, when it was really over.
I lived [and invested] through that period, saw it first hand
every day. So I wouldn't say it is as precisely rhythmic as
illustrated here, but the basic idea certainly
holds.
If extended, it will be a problem. However, with respect
to semi mfg, note the last two paragraphs:
"When helium is scarce, it goes to
whoever can pay the most. In past shortages, chip makers, with
their deep pockets, have outbid the competition, leaving other
sectors dependent on helium like pharmaceuticals and medical
imaging short of supply.
“The semiconductor industry will pay whatever they need to
pay to get that helium,” Mr. Brook said. Since the cost of shutting
down a chip factory would be enormous, “they’ll outbid anybody,” he
said."
The question does not make sense for the present situation.
The current Supreme Leader of Iran, Mojtaba Khamenei, is not an
Ayatollah, but rather he is a Hojjatoleslam (a mid-ranking cleric
without the title of Ayatollah).
So one could ask whether it will be TACO or WHCO (or perhaps
WSLCO)?
But likely a more relevant question for markets is: when will
there will be a CO?
It's not something that I follow regularly, but AFAIK silver,
and to a lesser extent gold, has been trading at a premium in
Shanghai already for a while.
For ORCL, the historical numbers might not tell you very much,
because they are planning to significantly ramp up both capex and
borrowing over the coming years. So the concern is about the
[economics of the business in the] future.
Let's look at the street's forecasts for FY2028. ORCL has
a May year end, so that would be 2027 for some people. The
average forecast for net debt and EBITDA gives us a net debt:EBITDA
of about 2.4x. At first glance it could be manageable,
putting aside for a moment the motivations of sell-side analysts,
which, let's say tends to influence their estimates.
But one wants to consider, among other factors, what kind of
assets are on the B/S, and their ability to generate cash flow.
In this case, they are data centers filled with GPUs.
What is the productive life of a GPU? Well, I think
that it was earlier this year that during an Nvidia AI conference,
Jensen quipped that with the launch of the newer and more
powerful Blackwell GPUs, “when Blackwell starts shipping in
volume, you couldn't give Hoppers away,” suggesting jokingly that
the older Hopper GPUs might have so little value they'd be
difficult to dispose of even for free. (I saw that as a
very rare foot-in-the-mouth moment for Jensen.) Perhaps they
could be used for inference, but I would guess that not many
hyperscalers would still use them for training. That would
imply that their ability to generate cash flow could be
significantly impaired. And that is over just 2 years.
OTOH also relevant for consideration is that most hyperscalers
still have a depreciation period for their servers of 5-6 years.
Although if their auditors are listening to Jensen perhaps
that will have to change.
When a company buys back and cancels shares, it reduces common
equity. That can make debt:equity look large, because the
equity left on the B/S is small.
A better metric of a company's ability to carry debt is net
debt: EBITDA. Net debt nets out the cash on the B/S with the
debt, and then compares it with a measure of gross margin.
On average, one wants net debt:EBITDA to be less than approximately
3x. A safe level varies according to things like the
cyclicality of the specific company, the strength of supporting
measures etc.
In FY2024, apple had net debt of $50 bn, and EBITDA of $
135 bn. So net debt:EBITDA of 0.37. Nothing to be
concerned about.
There are even some companies with negative common equity.
For example, some consumer companies like Philip Morris.
It generates lots of cash flow and has bought back so many
shares over the years that it's common equity is negative. So
it's debt:equity would be infinite. Is this a red flag?
Not in my book!
Glad that you are feeling better.
Something here for a Friday afternoon.
There has been increased attention on the small caps these
days as they have been outperforming. The best small/mid cap
ETF that I know of for the LT is:
XMMO
the midcap momentum ETF. Since launch in 2005, it has
approximately tripled the return of IWM. Interestingly, it
has also significantly outrun the SPY.
It has also bested both over the past 10 years. How
many US equity ETFs with no MAGS exposure have done that? I
guess it's a short list.
As it holds momentum names, it tends to trend, playing into
the hands of the KISS system. So perhaps it is worth setting
up a KISS [high-frequency] system for this little gem?
Something to help keep you from getting bored over the
weekend!
In the last 3 mo as small caps have come into favour, XMMO
has trailed IWM, but then again in this environment the microcaps
(IWC) did even better.
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earnings Tuesday AC at 190x forward
PANW
Posted by joss22 on 31st of Aug 2026 at 12:49 pm
earnings Tuesday AC
at 190x forward PE and 22x forward sales, you'd be a brave speculator to take a flier on it for longer than a day trade
OTOH, at those multiples I guess the market doesn't care about the valuation of security names now anyway
They produced a loss for
Samsung reports
Posted by joss22 on 30th of Jul 2026 at 08:51 am
They produced a loss for the first time in their device (handset) division, due to higher DRAM + storage prices, which are an input for that segment, and declining sales. But the memory division produced a greater profit than any other tech company.
And here is a key statement from what they said:
"Considering the long lead time of more than three and a half years from building a new fab to producing wafers, expanding supply through capacity additions will inevitably take a considerable amount of time," Samsung Electronics said. "It will be difficult to expect a significant increase in supply until 2028." The company added, "The supply shortage is expected to intensify next year compared to this year and continue into 2028."
People write about the size
Warren Buffett just shared a 10-word warning with investors. Here's ...
Posted by joss22 on 28th of Jul 2026 at 04:00 pm
People write about the size of margin debt in absolute terms, and some compare it to GDP, but the correct denominator IMO is market cap. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but compared to market cap it is not that crazy. Even when one adds in the debt of leveraged ETFs, which are actually not that large compared with the overall equity market, it's high but not off the charts.
As regards a CAPE of 40+, which is indeed very expensive, I have been concerned about that for a while, to my detriment. But there is no hard limit at the previous high of 44. Remember Japan went to a CAPE of 100. They had a simultaneous property + equity bubble, and I would not wish that on anyone. And that is why it took decades to work off, instead of only one decade, like the dot com bubble took the US to digest.
Nothing major - just the
Japanese bond yields going verticle
Posted by joss22 on 9th of Jul 2026 at 10:15 am
Nothing major - just the Government of Japan going bankrupt.
250% debt to gdp - who'd a thunk it could be a problem?
LOL that is not even
MU
Posted by joss22 on 5th of May 2026 at 11:16 am
LOL that is not even a stretch, the consensus 2027E is ~$99, putting MU on a PE of what, 6.5x.
OTOH, Hynix over in Korea, the leader in HBM, is at ~4x 2027E.
They are considering doing a US ADR. If so, it will of course be marketed against MU, and some money will move over to Hynix.
It is a boom-bust industry, and one needs to keep an eye on capex. Most of the capex in the industry this year is on technology upgrades, resulting in modest output growth. Recent step-ups in capex will boost wafer output, likely to hit late in 2027 or in 1H2028. Usually the new capacity hits as demand is cooling down, giving you the torpedo.
That is indeed a great
Commodities Bull Cycle
Posted by joss22 on 1st of May 2026 at 08:12 am
That is indeed a great chart.
However, it is trying to be a bit too exact, claiming a duration of 15 years every time. For example, the cycle which ended (actually in 2011) didn't start in 1993 in my opinion. The Asian Financial Crisis bottomed in 1997, and then the Russian default was in 1998, those were deeper bottoms than 1993. The real upside driver of that cycle was the reconstruction of China, and that kicked off in earnest when China was allowed to join the WTO, which was after 2000. That upcycle was interrupted by the US financial crisis, which some Americans prefer to label as the Global Financial Crisis. However, China actually stepped on the gas pedal very hard at that time, and so there was a final rebound to 2011, when it was really over.
I lived [and invested] through that period, saw it first hand every day. So I wouldn't say it is as precisely rhythmic as illustrated here, but the basic idea certainly holds.
I also prefer not to
someone was angry that I used aa curse word in Wednesday's Newsletter
Posted by joss22 on 26th of Apr 2026 at 12:25 pm
I also prefer not to encounter that type of language in content that I am also paying for -- and I appreciate that you normally do not use it.
I have not listened to
Don't lose sight of the helium shortages that are mounting
Posted by joss22 on 30th of Mar 2026 at 01:53 pm
I have not listened to the odd lots pod about this yet, though there was an article on the subject here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/business/helium-chips-iran-war.html
If extended, it will be a problem. However, with respect to semi mfg, note the last two paragraphs:
"When helium is scarce, it goes to whoever can pay the most. In past shortages, chip makers, with their deep pockets, have outbid the competition, leaving other sectors dependent on helium like pharmaceuticals and medical imaging short of supply.
“The semiconductor industry will pay whatever they need to pay to get that helium,” Mr. Brook said. Since the cost of shutting down a chip factory would be enormous, “they’ll outbid anybody,” he said."
The question does not make
Will it be TACO or WACO?
Posted by joss22 on 30th of Mar 2026 at 10:16 am
The question does not make sense for the present situation.
The current Supreme Leader of Iran, Mojtaba Khamenei, is not an Ayatollah, but rather he is a Hojjatoleslam (a mid-ranking cleric without the title of Ayatollah).
So one could ask whether it will be TACO or WHCO (or perhaps WSLCO)?
But likely a more relevant question for markets is: when will there will be a CO?
It's not something that I
Silver spot flag pole
Posted by joss22 on 26th of Dec 2025 at 06:46 am
It's not something that I follow regularly, but AFAIK silver, and to a lesser extent gold, has been trading at a premium in Shanghai already for a while.
Inverse CPCE closed above BB
Posted by joss22 on 3rd of Dec 2025 at 04:57 pm
Inverse CPCE closed above BB two days ago => would imply a correction coming if it triggers below that candle
https://stockcharts.com/sc3/ui/?s=%24SPX&id=p64260396815&p=D&st=2025-02-12&a=2011237976&listNum=27
> Do you also have
ORCL and AI earning shell game - ORCL 550% Debt to Equity, blows anything from the others
Posted by joss22 on 17th of Nov 2025 at 12:24 pm
> Do you also have a calculation for ORCL ?
For ORCL, the historical numbers might not tell you very much, because they are planning to significantly ramp up both capex and borrowing over the coming years. So the concern is about the [economics of the business in the] future.
Let's look at the street's forecasts for FY2028. ORCL has a May year end, so that would be 2027 for some people. The average forecast for net debt and EBITDA gives us a net debt:EBITDA of about 2.4x. At first glance it could be manageable, putting aside for a moment the motivations of sell-side analysts, which, let's say tends to influence their estimates.
But one wants to consider, among other factors, what kind of assets are on the B/S, and their ability to generate cash flow. In this case, they are data centers filled with GPUs. What is the productive life of a GPU? Well, I think that it was earlier this year that during an Nvidia AI conference, Jensen quipped that with the launch of the newer and more powerful Blackwell GPUs, “when Blackwell starts shipping in volume, you couldn't give Hoppers away,” suggesting jokingly that the older Hopper GPUs might have so little value they'd be difficult to dispose of even for free. (I saw that as a very rare foot-in-the-mouth moment for Jensen.) Perhaps they could be used for inference, but I would guess that not many hyperscalers would still use them for training. That would imply that their ability to generate cash flow could be significantly impaired. And that is over just 2 years.
OTOH also relevant for consideration is that most hyperscalers still have a depreciation period for their servers of 5-6 years. Although if their auditors are listening to Jensen perhaps that will have to change.
> How does AAPL have
ORCL and AI earning shell game - ORCL 550% Debt to Equity, blows anything from the others
Posted by joss22 on 17th of Nov 2025 at 11:23 am
> How does AAPL have that much debt?
It doesn't.
When a company buys back and cancels shares, it reduces common equity. That can make debt:equity look large, because the equity left on the B/S is small.
A better metric of a company's ability to carry debt is net debt: EBITDA. Net debt nets out the cash on the B/S with the debt, and then compares it with a measure of gross margin. On average, one wants net debt:EBITDA to be less than approximately 3x. A safe level varies according to things like the cyclicality of the specific company, the strength of supporting measures etc.
In FY2024, apple had net debt of $50 bn, and EBITDA of $ 135 bn. So net debt:EBITDA of 0.37. Nothing to be concerned about.
There are even some companies with negative common equity. For example, some consumer companies like Philip Morris. It generates lots of cash flow and has bought back so many shares over the years that it's common equity is negative. So it's debt:equity would be infinite. Is this a red flag? Not in my book!
EBAY
EBAY - Down on earnings ... maybe they should start ...
Posted by joss22 on 30th of Oct 2025 at 01:08 pm
https://www.ebay.com/itm/357727604589?_skw=blackwell+gpu&itmmeta=01K8V1DMYFKV1W1VAFGKWQM2WV&hash=item534a3a0f6d:g:zREAAeSw245o3kZC&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1cZp9r%2B2rk1bke6SP8Uk2cKgkHnVk%2F%2Bncy%2Fnwfmt1xw36JWaPzq4Yg7mHIMInZOprRfbYQMfRHXQHYK23bBwnxW2i9DHgPyCjpfD66bgm1idHO9fHb2538E4q%2FeoG0N3eWSmWAKCiaNHfwkCJR6h3DgUuKLfow8ehNrbp40SxC38Ps9XUSTX4mzO6SlfZnqji981SHgzllp%2Bc9VjX3aoQSS547qGQwqJn7nB1ge9p2dsGfEGl8ggimQmS1HFHe51%2FFM20ogN43AyxIb6WZEIo0peKfPvJaWcF5cl5xt%2FWQPLQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMss-24cZm
https://www.ebay.com/itm/357167243449?_trksid=p2332490.c101196.m2219&itmprp=cksum%3A3571672434492831a4da8a3643edb584662a5fbff4f7%7Cenc%3AAQAKAAABILCOeDZoDvrAuSPX2gf8Kxkuuv%252FIgoM7tXzpik74zZAS%252Bb2Spp0c5zGuJFAyHjTDsuASeZTTA88MA%252BLbfXKNyJ4ZSbNoPIH5Lq1NEAEJfZVCj7rOPdkMqJFfpvJ8%252BjARypACTT50Wa68ZTWKb5N%252Bfd1b1C9OEWYY6QQ5oA0hS8liDJS41MGUkB%252BXobqKwT4uMqj%252FPtrLQsXZGidT0iG372DS%252FmbBJuEoKcs4a823JHBj4pMA3i8AKiusR1u6GTYuWCD3RelFnW85ifpp1tS6w7dxxMRtOFvNCXZKvaaCpeSl%252FwAd2Mk3RVE4uq9wzHLJuD8GZgCkveRyDn%252BzBDLoMeoU9cSMKzmocRm19hvjthuW4GhUNu0VmtnaobTgKBBaiA%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01K8V1E5MYGJWB974ZD31P96S8
$NOW looks like it is
Posted by joss22 on 30th of Oct 2025 at 12:33 pm
$NOW looks like it is coming to the pointy end of a 2025 flag, more obvious on the weekly
est 2026 P/E is 80x, yet average target is +26%
Which way will it go?
Robert Prechter: History and Outlook
Posted by joss22 on 24th of Oct 2025 at 07:01 am
Robert Prechter: History and Outlook for Gold | Cycles TV Oct. 21 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKa3dn2T3Mo
(1 hour)
Love him, hate him, or somewhere inbetween, it can be useful to be aware of someone else's long term context
Hi Matt: Glad that you are
Posted by joss22 on 22nd of Aug 2025 at 01:20 pm
Hi Matt:
Glad that you are feeling better.
Something here for a Friday afternoon.
There has been increased attention on the small caps these days as they have been outperforming. The best small/mid cap ETF that I know of for the LT is:
XMMO
the midcap momentum ETF. Since launch in 2005, it has approximately tripled the return of IWM. Interestingly, it has also significantly outrun the SPY.
It has also bested both over the past 10 years. How many US equity ETFs with no MAGS exposure have done that? I guess it's a short list.
As it holds momentum names, it tends to trend, playing into the hands of the KISS system. So perhaps it is worth setting up a KISS [high-frequency] system for this little gem?
Something to help keep you from getting bored over the weekend!
In the last 3 mo as small caps have come into favour, XMMO has trailed IWM, but then again in this environment the microcaps (IWC) did even better.